Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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The square one is 100% redialed. By the way that seller only has redialed watches at crazy prices! 😁
 
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I think it’s a redial (or partial redial) because IMHO this particular dial should look like this (including the “Contax”) sign - see image below. Because this is actually a Contax cal. 285 movement. I am particularly suspicious about the subdials font and printing and relationship to the other scales on the dial.


I understand and can see why you are not convinced. However, there are no certainties in the UG world. The early days of UG are plastered with controversy and uncertainties. I would not come to any conclusions without the having the movement/watch at hand for a close up inpection. One thing i would point out is that there are no obvious signs of a redial (completely out of the ordinary) in number one (mark 020) or reference 12105. The early compax dial and movement uses a font (albeit not identical), that was used on very early compur references ...

 
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Interesting early compur (with intruiging '5' which IMHO indicates a number in a batch) https://www.instagram.com/p/CpnOIYot-Yk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

I really like this Compur. I don't know the seller, but he has a bunch of nice UG's on his Instagram. He's asking 3390 € for this piece. I'm quite new in the UG world. Are any of the senior members willing to share thoughts on condition/rarity in relation to the asking price? Or is this subject to a seperate thread?

I was also intrigued by the "5" on the inside caseback. The seller's reply: "True piece of art, impossible to find nowadays.
Made in 1936s’ from the goldsmith cashier (5) 'Croittier'."
 
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I really like this Compur. I don't know the seller, but he has a bunch of nice UG's on his Instagram. He's asking 3390 € for this piece. I'm quite new in the UG world. Are any of the senior members willing to share thoughts on condition/rarity in relation to the asking price? Or is this subject to a seperate thread?

I was also intrigued by the "5" on the inside caseback. The seller's reply: "True piece of art, impossible to find nowadays.
Made in 1936s’ from the goldsmith cashier (5) 'Croittier'."

Generally these 30 series UG compurs would have cal 386s running them. Its possible this one came with cal 285 but we'll never know. Its an attractive watch overall and price is ok.
 
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Perhaps ask him for a sharp picture of the dial. The IG post is not really useful for assessing the dial (however it seems to be original)

There are 2 5's in the caseback. The upper one is indeed the casemaker. My remark was about the lower one. I think this number indicates something about the number in a batch. See also: https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-genève-four-digit-references.152589/page-2#post-2093813

 
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I find this one quite interesting.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385481885491
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Not the watch per se but the fact that the case has MADE IN U.K. inscribed in the caseback which is the first time I've spotted this for a UG.

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The maker (RCK) is Roy Cecil King according to this link.

https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Makers/London-RA-RD.html
Given that they mention a date of death (2000, age 78) it suggests that Roy was a one-man band. One imagine he must have been quite the artisan if he was on the radar of a Swiss manufacture.

Anybody feeling brave enough to interpret the assay marks?
 
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Perhaps ask him for a sharp picture of the dial. The IG post is not really useful for assessing the dial (however it seems to be original)

There are 2 5's in the caseback. The upper one is indeed the casemaker. My remark was about the lower one. I think this number indicates something about the number in a batch. See also: https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-genève-four-digit-references.152589/page-2#post-2093813

Thank you for your assessments, @jumpingsecond and @Mark020. I'll ask the seller for a better dial shot and get back here.
 
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Sala is getting expensive: EUR 650 excl 32% or EUR 858 excl shipping!!
 
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I find this one quite interesting.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385481885491
s-l1600.jpg
Not the watch per se but the fact that the case has MADE IN U.K. inscribed in the caseback which is the first time I've spotted this for a UG.

s-l1600.jpg

The maker (RCK) is Roy Cecil King according to this link.

https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Makers/London-RA-RD.html
Given that they mention a date of death (2000, age 78) it suggests that Roy was a one-man band. One imagine he must have been quite the artisan if he was on the radar of a Swiss manufacture.

Anybody feeling brave enough to interpret the assay marks?
Sold at auction in Canada for surprisingly little recently and actually went unsold in a prior sale. Not everyone's cup of tea I guess.
 
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Well given the nature of it (and after a quick glance) I assume(d) it was on the plexi but am now less convinced

 
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Well given the nature of it (and after a quick glance) I assume(d) it was on the plexi but am now less convinced


it's in the exact same spot in every photo on the listing, sadly I don't think it's on the plexi
 
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it's in the exact same spot in every photo on the listing, sadly I don't think it's on the plexi
Why UG made service dials.
 
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That is almost a spitting image of mine ! however, there are differences (fond and so on). The plexi does not do it any favours. I love those dials though. Looks like someone snapped it up as it's gone. I could have lived with some damage to dial. Let's face it, it is an 80 year old piece of art and with a new plexi and an original calendar hand a bit of a clean, it would look a thousand times better!
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That is almost a spitting image of mine ! however, there are differences (fond and so on). The plexi does not do it any favours. I love those dials though. Looks like someone snapped it up as it's gone. I could have lived with some damage to dial. Let's face it, it is an 80 year old piece of art and with a new plexi and an original calendar hand a bit of a clean, it would look a thousand times better!

it’s still on eBay, and I think will continue to be for a long time, at that asking price