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Mark020

·Mar 4, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Interesting 22420. Serial and 5 digit reference on the inside of the caseback: https://www.chrono24.nl/universalge...al-cal285-coin-edge-case-35mm--id27640460.htm

 

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Mark020

·Mar 4, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Nice 124107 EB: https://waltergisermanleiloes.com.br/peca.asp?ID=16199508&ctd=174&tot=&tipo=&artista=

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Mark020

·Mar 5, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

52218 in need of TLC: https://link.marktplaats.nl/m195085...tm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios

 

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Mark020

·Mar 5, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Interesting one: reference 20509 both inside and outside (although I'm not 100% convinced of the outside one) https://www.ebay.fr/itm/275725737542

 

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Diabolik

·Mar 6, 2023

https://link.marktplaats.nl/m195085...tm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios

Shame about the dial …

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Mark020

·Mar 8, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

22209 case for sale (albeit a GP one): https://www.ebay.com/itm/234923943194

 

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Mark020

·Mar 10, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Interesting early compur (with intruiging '5' which IMHO indicates a number in a batch) https://www.instagram.com/p/CpnOIYot-Yk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

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Mark020

·Mar 13, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Too bad somebody managed to break off part of the dial. Interesting to see it was made by Stern. Movement serial 118k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364180142397

 

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Diabolik

·Mar 13, 2023

It looks like a pre 40s compax and i like it ... It would not take a lot to get it going. I dont think the dial is broken. Looks more like some sort of mod or may have been dropped and bent/damaged. From what i can see, you could probably straighten it and once in the case, you would hardly notice it. What you need is a side shot ! It would make a very nice period UG if you could find a case (that would be a miracle).

 

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bgrisso

·Mar 13, 2023

it seems these notches align

 

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Mark020

·Mar 13, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Interesting. Think you are right

 

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vujen

·Mar 13, 2023

These dial are usually cut, it's ok. This is reprinted tho.

 

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Diabolik

·Mar 13, 2023

vujen

These dial are usually cut, it's ok. This is reprinted tho.

what makes you think it is a redial ?

 

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martinc

·Mar 13, 2023

vujen

These dial are usually cut, it's ok. This is reprinted tho.

I agree. Cutout is normal in these earlier dials, it enables its removal. And I too think it’s a redial.

 

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Diabolik

·Mar 14, 2023

Why do you think it is a redial ? It is an early dial but from what I see, it is in line with style and quality and character of early dials. imperfections are common. Here is a 22209 and shows similar traits ...

 

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Mark020

·Mar 14, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Interesting 12105. Based on the strange font of the minutes I think a redial but still nice https://www.chrono24.nl/universalge...-cal-270-ref-12105-tank--rare--id27871777.htm

 

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martinc

·Mar 14, 2023

Diabolik

Why do you think it is a redial ? It is an early dial but from what I see, it is in line with style and quality and character of early dials. imperfections are common. Here is a 22209 and shows similar traits ...

I think it’s a redial (or partial redial) because IMHO this particular dial should look like this (including the “Contax”) sign - see image below. Because this is actually a Contax cal. 285 movement. I am particularly suspicious about the subdials font and printing and relationship to the other scales on the dial.

 

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Diabolik

·Mar 14, 2023

Mark020

Interesting 12105. Based on the strange font of the minutes I think a redial but still nice https://www.chrono24.nl/universalge...-cal-270-ref-12105-tank--rare--id27871777.htm

A variation of that dial is documented ... back in the early days, you could request a bespoke design from UG. Although dial is different to what is in Sala's bible, it does not mean it is a redial as for the other.

 

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Mark020

·Mar 14, 2023·not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer

Agreed but these 5's are really weird.

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martinc

·Mar 14, 2023

Mark020

Agreed but these 5's are really weird.

I have the exact same feeling. Strange font choice for the minute numerals. Also, the position and relationship of minute track and subdials is rather unusual. Furthermore, I would think that with this serial there shouldn’t be “Swiss” on the dial…
But who knows - the photo is not very sharp…

Edited: Mar 14, 2023