Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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Oh ...That is nice...
 
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Interestingly just ran the serial number on this one. It appears to be the same watch which was at Bernardini in May 2016. At that time it was a Uni-compax and the ask was EUR12000.



Now it appears with a Compur dial, the wrong subdial hands, but a correct second sweep hand and an ask of USD16500


Another mix and match UG
 
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Interestingly just ran the serial number on this one. It appears to be the same watch which was at Bernardini in May 2016. At that time it was a Uni-compax and the ask was EUR12000.



Now it appears with a Compur dial, the wrong subdial hands, but a correct second sweep hand and an ask of USD16500


Another mix and match UG
Pushers are not the same either.
 
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Pushers are not the same either.

I don't see that. What difference do you see?
 
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Interestingly just ran the serial number on this one. It appears to be the same watch which was at Bernardini in May 2016. At that time it was a Uni-compax and the ask was EUR12000.


Now it appears with a Compur dial, the wrong subdial hands, but a correct second sweep hand and an ask of USD16500

Another mix and match UG

Well done for finding this 👍
 
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I don't see that. What difference do you see?
An ever so slight variation on the caps.
 
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Interestingly just ran the serial number on this one. It appears to be the same watch which was at Bernardini in May 2016. At that time it was a Uni-compax and the ask was EUR12000.



Now it appears with a Compur dial, the wrong subdial hands, but a correct second sweep hand and an ask of USD16500


Another mix and match UG
When does F for Franken become F for Fraud?
 
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This one looks OKish value - I'm sure a loose dial will come up at some point.

https://www.ebay.it/itm/Alte-UNIVER...299022?hash=item3b08a8030e:g:dy0AAOSwuWJax5QI

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When does F for Franken become F for Fraud?

That may well be the key question in Universal chronograph collecting. We have seen that these are very freely franked - a browse through the latest Bernardini sale shows this. And I have seen people on this forum (sometimes the same people) vary from struct purists to tolerant in the extreme. The factory produced a wide number of variations and absent a photo in the archives reproduced in Sala, it is difficult to prove an authentic factory config.
 
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That may well be the key question in Universal chronograph collecting. We have seen that these are very freely franked - a browse through the latest Bernardini sale shows this. And I have seen people on this forum (sometimes the same people) vary from struct purists to tolerant in the extreme. The factory produced a wide number of variations and absent a photo in the archives reproduced in Sala, it is difficult to prove an authentic factory config.
Well said. This is the very definition of “putting it into a nutshell”
 
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. And I have seen people on this forum (sometimes the same people) vary from struct purists to tolerant in the extreme.[/QUOTE said:
Happens a lot when it comes to their own watch....
 
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Spotted this Uni-Compax online today - thoughts, anyone? It is claimed that the dial is "expertly restored" - is that merchant-speak for a "redial"?
 
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It is claimed that the dial is "expertly restored" - is that merchant-speak for a "redial"?
It is.
 
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Anybody seen a Martel-signed movement before? It's likely to be a pretty horrific franken and it looks like somebody has deliberately excised Universal Geneve. Very odd
That is ugly.