Universal Geneve Watches On Ebay

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But its NOS with paperwork!
The back doesn't look very NOS, though.
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Hmm! You're right. I revoke that phrase. Not NOS. Just in better than average condition.
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IMO, the papers doesn't mean anything since all the numbers from the back cover were erased, how do we know it's not a "put together" ?

I agree with your premise. There still might be hope for a potential buyer to confirm, however: the numbers on the 215 Polerouters tend to be located between the lugs on the side of the case, rather than on the caseback.
 
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Bummer! no serial number or reference, crystal is not great ... Great dial and set of hands though. Some parts of the Venus 178 were replaced. Does anyone know what ? A great parts doner if you have one already !

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$5K for a broken watch with no serial or reference that is missing parts ....! truly bonkers ...
 
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$5K for a broken watch with no serial or reference that is missing parts ....! truly bonkers ...
I think 3D printing watch parts could be a good business. Bezel, gears etc. Etc. Is there anyone out there who is doing this?
 
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3d printing is no where near good enough to make convincing bezels, etc. And as for gears/caliber parts - forget about it. Will take a few more decades.
 
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IMO it looks like the Cartier was added much later.
 
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IMO it looks like the Cartier was added much later.
I wonder if there are real ones in existence?
 
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Excellent question. If so, who added the double branding? Cartier or UG in factory.
 
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Excellent question. If so, who added the double branding? Cartier or UG in factory.
Or unsculpurously savvy merchants trying to make a profit 😜. Cartier has a numbering system, if this particular watch really was sold by Cartier there should be some markings potentially on the case (perhaps the inner lug), it cost something close to a grand to get it verified. I think a seller peddling a watch that would normally cost 3-4K at best at almost 4x the price because of the Cartier signature should at least provide a proof.
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Its a redial ...

Well overpriced for a small (34mm). Could possibly understand if it was an ovrsize with an original dial but that is (albeit nice) a franken. Good attempt to the redialer though ...

It is close but still too far ...

ps: nice buff on case !
 
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Its a redial ...

I think so, too. But, for 12,75k, i hope the ink was good...
 
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I think so, too. But, for 12,75k, i hope the ink was good...

The certificate amazes me ...

Completelly deceptive and intended to allure a potential buyer into a false sense of security.
 
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Someone living in a cave in France is selling this. Pictures are bad and you need to ask for more if interested.

Cave photography must be the new thing. Here's one from a greater Toronto area sales board (Kijiji) asking 250 CDN. I'm not interested and have no knowledge as to whether it is real or not. Thought I'd share nonetheless for those of you might more closely follow this kind of model. Apologies in advance in case this is some sort of affront to common sense.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-jewelry-watc...ch/1194336481?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true