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UG Polerouter Sub for sale @ Hodinkee

  1. sdre Feb 12, 2020

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  2. sdre Feb 12, 2020

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    after speaking to a couple of friends about this, will give it a pass. think the bracelet isnt period correct as well.
     
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  3. Bill Sohne Bill @ ΩF Staff Member Feb 12, 2020

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    Hey
    The bracelet is ok for a US model !... but typically a US version would have a 17 j movement.. from what I have observed over the years....

    good Hunting
    bill
     
  4. calalum Feb 12, 2020

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    Reasons? Thanks.
     
  5. Mazoue Feb 13, 2020

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    The bracelet has been cobbled together.

    It's a JB Champion bracelet, which I think should have end links marked 55

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/jb-champion-bracelet-end-links-help.68423/

    But this one has GF end links. And those end links are marked UP for the Polerouter Super and not UM, which would be a much better fit for the Sub.

    All that said, the watch itself looks terrific and is not crazily expensive.
     
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  6. sdre Feb 13, 2020

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    Yeah. I mean if this was sold but European dealers, we would be looking at at least 10- 20% more or so. IMHO

    It's still available so........... Mmmmmm still thinking about it.
     
  7. asrnj77 Feb 13, 2020

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    I think there is one or two on eBay that’s significantly cheaper and as good condition. But Hodinkee can always command a premium.
     
  8. greyfox422 Feb 13, 2020

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    I didn't even know this existed until now. Interesting looking, not for me though.
     
  9. Mazoue Feb 13, 2020

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    I think that is all too easy to say but I'm not sure I agree.

    The green and blue bezel variants are probably the most desirable and I don't recall seeing anything comparable for sale at this price.

    I have no affiliation with Hodinkee but I've often thought that the Polerouters that they have for sale are reasonably priced.
     
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  10. Diabolik Feb 13, 2020

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    Bracelet is wrong. End links are incorrect for that case. Curvature and size is incompatible with case. Distance between links on bracelet is different hence bracelet sits kind of wonky. that would be enough to put me off. Head looks OK but nothing to write home about. I would a little concerned that case back looks heavily polished but seems to have retained serial and reference. I would want to carefully inspect it before making any assessment or decision ...
     
  11. sdre Feb 13, 2020

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    A friend made a similar assessment with regards to the bracelet too. Appreciate the replies all, @Mazoue interesting nonetheless.
     
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  12. Mazoue Feb 13, 2020

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    I agree re bracelet - see my comment above.

    You may have a point regarding the serial and reference numbers.

    Here they are, up the right way and magnified and they don't look very convincing to be honest.

    I wonder whether someone has tried to make them clearer because they had been partially removed due to polishing.

    1835-UG-caseback_1024x1024.jpg
     
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  13. calalum Feb 13, 2020

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    What is the comment about the blue and green bezels based on? I would love to get a red one as it is definitely my favorite. I passed on a green one a while ago since I did not love how the color went with the dial. To each their own. Good luck either way.
     
  14. Diabolik Feb 14, 2020

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    On seeing the magnified image, the serial number doesn't look right at all . I am at odds with the whole thing now. It is very weird. I would hazard at saying that it has been added. Space between sets of numbers are too big and never in my life have I seen a font like that one !

    Surprised hodinkee has put his name on this one as he is a reputable voice and authority on horological matters and would expect him to have eyes like an hawk ...
     
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  15. asrnj77 Feb 14, 2020

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    I have no affiliation with the seller on eBay and it doesn’t come with a bracelet but it’s been sitting for months at $5575 with a best offer.
     
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  16. Mazoue Feb 14, 2020

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    Yes, I've been aware of this one for some time too.

    I suspect the damaged bezel and slightly scruffy dial/hands have held it back. It's also been polished and lost the brushed finish in places. The marks inside the case back would also be a slight concern for me.

    Still a great watch and looks well priced compared with the Hodinkee example I agree, particularly in light of the case back concerns.
     
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  17. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 15, 2020

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    Since I know nothing I apologize for asking a silly question, but are the bracelets important enough to deter the purchase of a watch? OP watch looks beautiful in my very naive, uneducated and humble opinion.
     
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  18. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 15, 2020

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    PS I’d be very curious if the knowledgeable gentlemen who have chimed in would kindly post pictures from their own examples, so we can see what a good or better example should look like? Many thanks in advance
     
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  19. Dan S Feb 15, 2020

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    An incorrect bracelet isn't a deal breaker in general, but these bracelets are expensive and hard to find, so the incorrect bracelet changes the price equation dramatically. At least that's my take on it.
     
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  20. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 15, 2020

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    Thanks for the explanation— I wonder by a factor of how much? Are those bracelets worth several hundreds or several thousands?
    As a fan of crafted leather straps, I must admit being a bit obtuse when it comes to all of the intensity about bracelets.