Forums Latest Members

UG Polerouter Sub find (haven't purchased ..... tempted though)

  1. sdre Dec 4, 2019

    Posts
    2,460
    Likes
    7,449
    Hey all.

    I'm been walking Tokyo and found this for sale.

    Looks all correct to me but would like to seek your views on this.

    Movement pic is a 215 microrotor movement.

    Is there any serial for the microrotor to be dated (for it to be correct) or can it be swapped out for a generic ug 215 movement etc

    Thanks !

    IMG_20191205_132441.jpg IMG-20191205-WA0031.jpeg
     
  2. khanmu Dec 4, 2019

    Posts
    1,359
    Likes
    11,151
    Hey - I’m in Tokyo too this week. Which watch shops have you found, and any good ones/recommendations please? Thanks!
     
    sdre likes this.
  3. sdre Dec 4, 2019

    Posts
    2,460
    Likes
    7,449
    I went to dazzling pieces (at omotesando). Planning to visit nakano for the rolex/vintage/unreachable haha.
     
  4. Dan S Dec 4, 2019

    Posts
    18,773
    Likes
    43,169
    Obviously one of the crowns isn't correct. But the dial looks legit, i.e. not fake. Does the inner bezel turn correctly?
     
    sdre likes this.
  5. Geezer Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    394
    Likes
    1,158
    I don't know anything, but that is a very cool piece. Thanks for sharing.
     
  6. khanmu Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    1,359
    Likes
    11,151
    Thanks - I’ll see if I can get there... if you want to try unreachable, have a look at Commit in Ginza - cabinets FULL of vintage Daytona’s that start at £40k..

    https://www.commit-watch.co.jp/
     
  7. ELV web Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    2,668
    Likes
    24,651
    the crowns are fine, the one on TOP bigger with UG logo and the lower one a bit smaller and with mesh pattern. https://omegaforums.net/threads/polerouter-sub-a-typology.3624/
     
    Carlton-Browne, sdre and aap like this.
  8. Xeer Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    360
    Likes
    792
    Private Eyes: 6-28-7 Takinogawa Kita-ku Tokyo 114-0023
    Sweet Road: 株式会社スイートロード
    212-0016 神奈川県川崎市幸区南幸町2-21 1F
     
  9. Xeer Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    360
    Likes
    792
  10. JimJupiter Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    1,489
    Likes
    6,498
    I have no knowledge in UG but this is a beautiful watch!
     
    sdre likes this.
  11. PrincipeAsturie Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    37
    Likes
    37
    Ciao,
    tutto mi sembra corretto (quadrante, lancette, corone).
    Un bel pezzo da includere nella collezione
     
    Diabolik likes this.
  12. PrincipeAsturie Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    37
    Likes
    37
    Hi,
    everything seems to me to be correct (dial, hands, crowns).
    A nice piece to include in the collection
     
    Diabolik likes this.
  13. Walid4watches Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    19
    Likes
    4
    how much are they asking for it?
     
  14. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    7,384
    Likes
    24,199
    I remain a bit skeptical of this claim. For what reason would UG have chosen two different style and sized crowns?
     
  15. Mazoue Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    1,134
    Likes
    2,590
    Why they have asymmetric crowns is an interesting and relevant question but I have absolutely no doubt that it is correct. We've seen so many examples with these exact asymmetric crowns and, in fact, I suspect the majority we see are like this.

    I'm not a diver but I suspect the crowns are different sizes because they do very different jobs. One is a conventional crown for moving the hands and winding the watch and the other is for moving the internal bezel. The larger upper crown allows for it to be easily identified and also for it to be used more easily shortly before diving or perhaps even underwater.
     
    Diabolik likes this.
  16. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    7,384
    Likes
    24,199
    Thanks. I don't dive. Would a diver ever have reason to make an adjustment under water?
     
  17. Mazoue Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    1,134
    Likes
    2,590
    It looks completely correct to me and in fantastic condition too.

    I didn't understand your question about the Cal 215 and serial though. The case ref should be 20369/1 and the serial around the 2'100,xxx mark.

    Later examples can have a Cal 218 but the Cal 215 is almost certainly correct. I've had quite a few and not had any issues with the movements, probably due to the great waterproof case design.
     
  18. WhereMadnessLies Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    179
    Likes
    983
    I'm not a diver but from my understanding when a diver is ascending back to the surface they have to go through decompression stages. This means staying at a set depth for a set amount of time. Not doing this routine correctly results in the diver getting "the bends" or decompression sickness. This is one of the reasons why most dive watches have a rotating bezel.

    Also, cool watch. Most of the ones I have seen have lume on the inner bezel, maybe this one is a replacement? I'm sure someone with more knowledge of these will chime in to correct me :unsure:.
     
  19. Mazoue Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    1,134
    Likes
    2,590
    I think both types of inner bezel are legit. It's another of the mysteries surrounding this reference.

    It looks to have correct font and appears to be original to me. Some of the bezels on the Aussie fakes had a fatter font that was clearly different.
     
    WhereMadnessLies likes this.
  20. sdre Dec 5, 2019

    Posts
    2,460
    Likes
    7,449
    Also a tricompax going for a cool 23.8k USD

    The sub is asking for 9.3k USD. @Mazoue had one for sale which looked better for a better price too.

    IMG_20191205_131600.jpg IMG_20191205_131608.jpg