Two potential options, grateful for your insight

Ok you lovely people, first time posting a thread like this so please forgive me if I go astray. I bring to you experts, the chosen ones two watches I have cast my eye upon.

The first advertised as a Seamaster 2846 with no date calibre 501 20 jewel, year 1950-59. All original condition, non luminous original hands, original crown and crystal(with logo). Original 1502 bracelet. Watch we are informed was serviced in 2022.



In my inexperienced opinion, reviewing similar watches I believe the dial is original, slight patina showing, writing appears correct as does the crosshairs. The crown not sure I struggle yet to understand how you know if the crown is correct for the watch but I think it is correct. Caseback looks genuine, now requested additional photos of the calibre and inside the caseback , reply received and I quote, "No photos of the movement as this would require watchmaking tools and would impact the seal of the case back" although they do mention two photos were published with the original listing? so may push further on this. Bid on Ebay so far is 1 bidder at say €582 3days to run yet so expect bidding to go higher. Seller not really active on Ebay, appears to bought a few vintage stuff and sold a previous non working watch.

Looks a tidy watch but is it real, worried about not seeing where the magic happens.

Expect bids to increase, think UK, European prices are alot higher than USA for example so if I do bid what would be the opinions on a fair price for the piece. Any assistance gratefully appreciated

The second watch, Constellation 168005, 1966(I think, two dates given other 1963) calibre 564, serviced. Again reviewing similar watches looks genuine slight patina on the dial, text appears to be correct as does the star, hands onyx , no lume on the dail. Did read generally no markers with onyx on the hour markers but that could be me confused. Date window appears faceted. More confident this time that the crown is correct, but let you be the judge. Does not appear to be over polished gold cap Price on Chrono(yes generally tend to be over priced, ) is €1150.


Grateful for the knowledge from the panel of enthusiasts and expertises please.

Really like 2846, good one to add to your collection, on the other hand, not so much with that Constellation, wrong crown, soft-case, you could find a much better one, just be patient.

Happy hunting,

Thanks all for your opinions and advice.

My eyes are drawn towards the 2846, just pops in it's clean and crispness. I will keep a tabs on the auction and see how it goes.

On second google see what you mean on the crown on the 168.005

Thanks, I have a steep learning curve, this is great, assists me in identifying the easier tells.

+1 on the 2846. It checks the boxes mentioned by others and just catches my eye better. Good luck.