Help Deciding Between Seamasters (166.010) from the 1960s

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Hey y'all,
I'm looking to purchase an Omega Seamaster 166.010 for myself and wanted to get a couple opinions on some I have come across, particularly between these two watches. Both watches are 166.010's with beads of rice bracelets, they both come from Japan

The first watch is a 1967 116.010 with the 562 movement, it features Onyx inlays, crosshair white dial (I believe) with some patina visible, possibly some water ingress around the 2-4 markers visible. Second hand also has some corrosion but other then that dial seems to be in relatively good condition. Case seems to have been polished but the brushing on the sides of the case seem to be present, however there are a couple dings on the top right lug along with a replaced crown. This watch is the cheaper of the two being $536 shipped.


The second watch is again a 166.010 produced in 1965, so it similarly has the 562 movement. However this watch seems to be slightly more polished and from the photos I couldn't see the brushing along the side of the case. However the watch does have the original crown and no large scratches or dents from what I can see. Dial seems to be in good shape, has the bubbling that these Champagne dials are known for, however it is quite a nice colour. The tritium hour markers appear to be good shape however the tritium in the hands seems to have fallen out completely and the second hand has the similar corrosion. This watch is offered at a higher price: $640 USD shipped.


Hopefully all those images embedded correctly, this is my first post. But anyways, my main question is what do you guys think is the best purchase? I plan to have this watch for a while but might sell it down the road if I get a speedmaster.

If anyone has photos of their own watches perhaps another Champagne dial that would be great! I'd love to see what everyone else has.

All opinions would be appreciated, along with anything that anyone spots that might rase suspicion for something to look at.

Thanks,
Max
 
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I would keep looking, neither of those would give me any joy. You can do better. These are extremely common, I’ve bought a number over the years. Don’t buy from a dealer selling poor examples, wait for auctions and bid on a good one. There are several on YJ at the moment.
 
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I would keep looking, neither of those would give me any joy. You can do better. These are extremely common, I’ve bought a number over the years. Don’t buy from a dealer selling poor examples, wait for auctions and bid on a good one. There are several on YJ at the moment.
Hmmm alright! Whats YJ? I’m not familiar with that but I’ll check it out if you have a link!
 
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Hmmm alright! Whats YJ? I’m not familiar with that but I’ll check it out if you have a link!
Also interested in YJ?
 
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The second is marginally better but I agree with Dan, unless budget is tight, I’d keep looking. These are fairly common and can be found in great condition with patience
 
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Go for the best dial/case you can afford. Omega 5** movements are reliable, relatively easy to service and parts are generally available.
 
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Hmmm okay thanks guys! Sounds like the consensus is to keep looking. I’m going to try my best to find a champagne dial as I think those look amazing!
 
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YJ is yahoo Japan.
You can sign up with a buying agent such as One Japan, and they do proxy bidding for you and manage shipping. Some good deals on occasion but the bidding can be wonky and some sellers won’t sell to proxy bidders so it’s more complicated. Also pretty much forget about returning something. Most of the big sellers from Japan are on eBay anyway. I’ve bought a few items successfully but it’s definitely more complicated as a buyer. It’s a good option if you’re a vintage GRand Seiko collector as many watches are sold privately on YJ. But you need to know your stuff to commit to YJ online auction
 
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Hmmm okay thanks guys! Sounds like the consensus is to keep looking. I’m going to try my best to find a champagne dial as I think those look amazing!
Look on Private Sales thread on OF from collectors and Watches for Sale thread on OF from dealers. There are several that have regular listings of these watches. Take your time look around you can find nice one
 
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I bought mine on Chrono24
 
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You should count the import duties and service fee to the total price. When buying from Japan, you definitely need to service the watch and sometime some parts need to be replaced.
For example, this 166.010 need to change the rotor’s axis
This 166.011 has a broken part (I don’t know what that is)

The Japan market has a lot of interesting watches btw.
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OF member @nanjingcigaretes is offering this in OF Watches for sale and he generally has a few for sale…

Oooo I’ll check this out! He seems to have a ton of great watches listed, I’ll just wait for one in my price range!
 
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You should count the import duties and service fee to the total price. When buying from Japan, you definitely need to service the watch and sometime some parts need to be replaced.
Yea definitely good to think about, I suppose that ads 2-300 onto any watch…
 
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I’ll just wait for one in my price range!
Your price range is probably not realistic to buy a good example with bracelet from a collector. You would have to get very lucky.

If you are looking to get a Seamaster cheaply, you will either end up buying something crappy (like the ones you showed), or you will need to become an expert so that you feel comfortable bidding on watches in auctions.

If you are willing to pay a fair price, you can buy one that has already been vetted (and repaired as necessary) by a collector or dealer. That's what I would recommend for starters. Up your budget and buy something good from someone who knows what they are doing.
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Your price range is probably not realistic to buy a good example with bracelet from a collector. You would have to get very lucky.

If you are looking to get a Seamaster cheaply, you will either end up buying something crappy (like the ones you showed), or you will need to become an expert so that you feel comfortable bidding on watches in auctions.

If you are willing to pay a fair price, you can buy one that has already been vetted (and repaired as necessary) by a collector or dealer. That's what I would recommend for starters. Up your budget and buy something good from someone who knows what they are doing.
Hmmm alright then, what do you recon is a good price range? I think I could probably stretch to in the 800s that seems to get a couple nice watches around here 😀
 
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Hmmm alright then, what do you recon is a good price range? I think I could probably stretch to in the 800s that seems to get a couple nice watches around here 😀
I think that's more realistic, and you will probably find a decent unserviced example in that range.