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Thoughts on this - unpolished - 2846

norb1967
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A dealer in Belgium has this for sale around the £1300 mark. It looks like a nice original piece with some spotting on what seems like an original dial. What’s more, the chamfered edges of the lugs remain. I imagine it’s slightly over the odds price wise but does come with a two year service warranty.
 
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If you're buying from Belgium into the UK, don't forget to factor in the import cost.
I think it's around an additional 20%, making this watch £1560.
 
norb1967
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If you're buying from Belgium into the UK, don't forget to factor in the import cost.
I think it's around an additional 20%, making this watch £1560.
I have a friend there who I’d get it sent to
 
cristos71
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I personally think it is a €650-800 watch max and find £1300 extremely top heavy even with a case in good shape
 
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That's a nice watch with its original dial.
That said, it's a quite common reference and I find the uneven patina on the dial a bit unattractive, so I wouldn't pay that price for this particular specimen.
 
hejsam
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As the others already said, this is no way near a 1300GBP watch.

Light dialed beefy lugs Seamasters should be 1000GBP tops if not a spectacular condition or rare dial configuration IMO.

Something like this 2767 I have:
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Dan S
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Crazy price, IMO. I think it would be expensive at half the price all things considered, especially given the condition of the dial.

Funny how a dealer will emphasize the condition of the lugs when the dial has measles.
 
iamvr
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I'm coincidentally wearing mine today. I paid considerably less for a glossy black one.

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As others have said, the asking price is too high for a pretty common reference even if the conditions were top, which is not the case given the patinated dial.
 
norb1967
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Someone asked for a case back pic. Thanks for all your feedback. I wonder if I could get him down a bit - in the meantime though I’ll continue my search!
 
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norb1967
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hejsam hejsam
As the others already said, this is no way near a 1300GBP watch.

Light dialed beefy lugs Seamasters should be 1000GBP tops if not a spectacular condition or rare dial configuration IMO.

Something like this 2767 I have:
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Beautiful even patina on that one. How much did you pay if you don’t mind?
 
ConElPueblo
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That's an idiotic price.

If it had been in solid gold with a spotless dial it would have been around right.
 
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norb1967 norb1967
Beautiful even patina on that one. How much did you pay if you don’t mind?
You should be able to find one like this in the 7-800GBP range (without the bracelet)
 
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norb1967 norb1967
Someone asked for a case back pic. Thanks for all your feedback. I wonder if I could get him down a bit - in the meantime though I’ll continue my search!

Just be patient and wait for a better one.
 
norb1967
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One last thing - I’ve noticed the lume on the hands on this are black, and on a few others too. Is that what happens to radium when it’s aged?

other pic for example

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norb1967 norb1967
One last thing - I’ve noticed the lume on the hands on this are black, and on a few others too. Is that what happens to radium when it’s aged?

other pic for example


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No haha, those are onyx markers.
 
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norb1967 norb1967
One last thing - I’ve noticed the lume on the hands on this are black, and on a few others too. Is that what happens to radium when it’s aged?

other pic for example

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I’d highly recommend reading through this thread before making any other purchases. It covers the topic of lume at great detail including radium versus tritium. Very important to understand the differences.
 
norb1967
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No haha, those are onyx markers.

I was more referring to the hands here:

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Which you can see have darkened - is that what radium does? I posted the other watch as a similar example.

Nepomuceño Nepomuceño
I’d highly recommend reading through this thread before making any other purchases. It covers the topic of lume at great detail including radium versus tritium. Very important to understand the differences.

Thanks. I’ve been reading this afternoon. In any case any 50s watches are all going to have radium lume, as Omega only started to use Tritium in the early 60s. I’d like to avoid radium if I can, but at the same time imagine one watch like the one posted above likely won’t be extremely harmful.

I’m also aware of not wanting this thread to become about radium vs tritium etc. from a coherence point of view so am keen mainly just to understand about why the hands on the examples I’ve posted have some blackening - I am presuming that’s the radium as it ages?
 
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norb1967 norb1967
One last thing - I’ve noticed the lume on the hands on this are black, and on a few others too. Is that what happens to radium when it’s aged?

other pic for example

12DEAB07-7D6B-4CA1-B94C-C722904D4EEC.jpeg

This watch hasn't got any luminous material on the dial or in the hands. The dial markers have some sort of inlay, typically onyx, and the hands have a strip of black paint to fill in the cutout and match the dial furniture.

That said, lume can go very dark if subjected to moisture.
 
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