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Thoughts on this - unpolished - 2846

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This watch hasn't got any luminous material on the dial or in the hands. The dial markers have some sort of inlay, typically onyx, and the hands have a strip of black paint to fill in the cutout and match the dial furniture.

That said, lume can go very dark if subjected to moisture.

Thank you. I spent time today reading through forums about radium and then your post about dial lume, and had understood that this is a dial that has old black lume in it - I didn’t think of the possibility of black onyx. I’m also potentially going to try and avoid radium, so this shows me that I potentially don’t have to avoid any watch with an inlay in the hands!
 
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@norb1967 my watch OCD* is making me point out your title typo. The late 1950s fat lug no date SC watch you show in your first post is model 2846, (the small second version is the 2848, the casebacks are double marked). The 2486 is a triple date design and quite different.


*or bare faced pedantry, you choose.
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@norb1967 my watch OCD* is making me point out your title typo. The late 1950s fat lug no date SC watch you show in your fist post is model 2846, (the small second version is the 2848, the casebacks are double marked). The 2486 is a triple date design and quite different.


*or bare faced pedantry, you choose.

no, quite right and thanks for correcting me. For some reason I keep getting the numbers mixed up. I’ll change the title
 
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norb1967 norb1967
Thank you. I spent time today reading through forums about radium and then your post about dial lume, and had understood that this is a dial that has old black lume in it - I didn’t think of the possibility of black onyx. I’m also potentially going to try and avoid radium, so this shows me that I potentially don’t have to avoid any watch with an inlay in the hands!

Lume can get very dark, radium or tritium. Like it or not, it is what it is.
 
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I paid about the same price (including a £600 service and an original buckle) for my 2846 recently-- and I feel like I overpaid.

But overpaying for a nice example is not as bad if you don't plan on selling it forward. 👍
 
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I paid about the same price (including a £600 service and an original buckle) for my 2846 recently-- and I feel like I overpaid.

But overpaying for a nice example is not as bad if you don't plan on selling it forward. 👍

I’d have picked that up in a heartbeat! I’m trying to avoid lume if I can. Where did you find it?
 
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I’d have picked that up in a heartbeat! I’m trying to avoid lume if I can. Where did you find it?
Yeah non-lume or onyx for me as well. 👍
I won an eBay auction from a German seller.
 
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Dial on this example has (or had— tough to tell) radium. So did the hands at one point. I think that the radium crumbled and a watchmaker painted the hands rather than restore the radium, which would not have matched the dial.
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Dial on this example has (or had— tough to tell) radium. So did the hands at one point. I think that the radium crumbled and a watchmaker painted the hands rather than restore the radium, which would not have matched the dial.
gatorcpa

That makes sense. The ‘paint’ looks too uniform and too dark perhaps to be old lume. And I can’t spot any lume on the batons. I don’t think this piece is worth it
 
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I'm a 2846 fan, mine show a fair bit more patina than some. The OP watch would have had radium on both dial and hands originally. I have something very similar, the dial lume is in the small wells at the end of the stick indices:

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I also have a solid 18K gold one, also with Radium, to put the price of the OP watch into perspective, this cost me a lot less than the seller of that one was asking:


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norb1967
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I'm a 2846 fan, mine show a fair bit more patina than some. The OP watch would have had radium on both dial and hands originally. I have something very similar, the dial lume is in the small wells at the end of the stick indices:

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I also have a solid 18K gold one, also with Radium, to put the price of the OP watch into perspective, this cost me a lot less than the seller of that one was asking:


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That puts the price into perspective! Beautiful watches. Thanks for sharing. I’m sure one will come up at some point.
 
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