Thoughts on this pie-pan on eBay

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bellydrums

·Aug 18, 2025

I’m on the lookout to buy a Constellation pie pan, and I’m trying to learn (using the excellent advice on existing threads on this forum) how to tell a good example from a poorer one, spot redials etc.

The example attached is from eBay, and I’d be grateful for people’s thoughts on condition. To my untrained eye I looks like an original dial, but the star appears slightly askew. It looks as if the lugs have been polished too? 7-rom BoR bracelet is a plus. Otherwise it looks good to me. What have I missed, if anything?

It’s on sale for £1200 which seems reasonable to me. Overall I probably won’t go for it as the askew star would drive me up the wall and I’d prefer a date complication, but I want to improve my skills at spotting good vs bad.

Thanks.

 

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Passover

·Aug 18, 2025

Hi!

IMO the dial is in original condition, some slight spotting but OK. Hands look good

The lugs are indeed polished, way too much I think

Terrible crown, most likely not even Omega

BOR is a plus but the endlinks are wrong and 19mm, I don't know what they did to fit them to 18mm lugs

The non date versions are more attractive to some people and not so common but if you want a date version another reason to pass this one

Not a 1200 GBP watch

Stay on board of the forum and keep learning, return with other finds to discuss them here!

 

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bellydrums

·Aug 18, 2025

Passover

Hi!

IMO the dial is in original condition, some slight spotting but OK. Hands look good

The lugs are indeed polished, way too much I think

Terrible crown, most likely not even Omega

BOR is a plus but the endlinks are wrong and 19mm, I don't know what they did to fit them to 18mm lugs

The non date versions are more attractive to some people and not so common but if you want a date version another reason to pass this one

Not a 1200 GBP watch

Stay on board of the forum and keep learning, return with other finds to discuss them here!

Thanks, that’s really helpful advice. I hadn’t spotted the crown or end links. How can you tell from the photos that the end links are wrong, so that I can learn to identify this?

 

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Passover

·Aug 18, 2025

bellydrums

How can you tell from the photos that the end links are wrong

Omega end links have numbers, the one on this watch are "555" They were used on later Constellations with 19 mm lugs.

Usually you find 11/511 or 70/570 end links on Constellations, 7 row bracelets should have 70/570 end links

 

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Dan S

·Aug 18, 2025

It also appears that the rotor may have been replaced by a copper-plated part. The various little issues affect value, but the dealbreaker for me on this one is the case.

 

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Deafboy

·Aug 18, 2025·His Holiness Puer Surdus

Dan S

It also appears that the rotor may have been replaced by a copper-plated part.

I see the tint doesn’t match rest of the movement, but I thought Omega movements were copper-plated. Not sure what you infer by your comment.

 

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AG77

·Aug 18, 2025

The lugs are rough, far too polished. As my favorite part of these watches, that's where I would disqualify this watch.

 

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Dan S

·Aug 18, 2025

Deafboy

I see the tint doesn’t match rest of the movement, but I thought Omega movements were copper-plated. Not sure what you infer by your comment.

The rest of the movement is correctly gold-plated.

 

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Deafboy

·Aug 18, 2025·His Holiness Puer Surdus

thread drift alert
Gold???
I was under the assumption that it was copper. I remember seeing as material analysis report saying as much.

 

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Dan S

·Aug 18, 2025

Deafboy

thread drift alert
Gold???
I was under the assumption that it was copper. I remember seeing as material analysis report saying as much.

There are two types of movement, depending on the year of production and the model.

Edit: Obviously there are more than two, if you include earlier nickel-plated.

 

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Deafboy

·Aug 18, 2025·His Holiness Puer Surdus

Here’s the analysis report I mentioned, and the parts analyzed are from 1931 to 1975.

Edited: Oct 17, 2025

 

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Dan S

·Aug 18, 2025

Deafboy

Here’s the analysis report I mentioned

Yes, there is a lot of debate about the actual composition. I was just referring to the apparent mis-match in color. But perhaps that is just due to lighting.

 

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AG77

·Aug 18, 2025

The dial looks nice though, I prefer non date and non lume.