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atc100
·Thanks to flqt-9000 I have one now 😀🍿
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FreelanceWriter
·Beautiful!
Is this a 145.026 or a 145.013 Transitional?
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LeCorb
·I don't know anything about transitionals, but that's not a 145.013 case or crystal.
Omega modified 145.013 dials during the transitional phase from Cal 910 to Cal 911 to use them for the small second hand of Cal 911.
That is why your model is called 145.026 "Transitional". The dials of the later 145.026 (and 145.036) have the curved "3".
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LeCorb
·4 in a row: 1 x "standard" 145.013, 2 x 145.013 "Transitional", 1 x 145.026 "Transitional"
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chunkythebulldog
·Just picked this bad boy up from a forum member.
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·The sub dial of your 145.026 has the "3" like the 145.013 and a smaller font for the left register. Omega modified 145.013 dials during the transitional phase from Cal 910 to Cal 911 to use them for the small second hand of Cal 911.
That is why your model is called 145.026 "Transitional". The dials of the later 145.026 (and 145.036) have the curved "3".
I was just referring to flqt-9000's watch, but thanks for the explanation. Great collection. Could I trouble you for your expert input on mine while we're on the topic of transitionals? I've since had this one overhauled and case-refreshed by Official Time Watch in Utah, but I'm curious for an expert opinion on it. (After photos on p. 20 of this thread.)
I feel safe ruling out anything Franken-like because the seller genuinely knew nothing about the watch and was so afraid to hurt it by hitting the pushers out of order that she spent $200 getting it appraised and having them do it. She inherited it from a relative who wore it for 40 years and she sent me the appraisal packet from the jewelers who tested the functions out as I'd asked her to do for me. The original owner didn't bother to replace the cracked/chipped crystal or the (resulting?) paint-smudged bezel, so I highly doubt he was messing around with cases and movements. He also hand-scratched his first name onto the case-back, which isn't something that anybody thinking about its sales value would ever do. It's a 911 (obviously) in a 145.013 case with red-dot pushers instead of the more common red/yellow pushers in later versions. Very happy with it, but any insight into it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/transitional-flightmaster.62988/#post-936932
https://omegaforums.net/threads/the-flightmaster-thread.36423/page-20#post-1157036
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LeCorb
·Thanks for your reply and this very interesting watch and story.
First of all, I am not an expert at all. I just had the opportunity to accidentially purchase a 145.013 Tranistional some years ago.
Hence, my reply is only based on my poor experience with a handful of Flightmasters and/or my personal interpretation/opinion what might have happened with your Flightmaster.
For an expert opinion I recomend to consult the book "Flightmaster Only" or to directly contact its authors who did an awesome job.
As far as I know, all 145.013 "Transitional" came with the typical dial still having the "3" in the 12h-register like the regular 145.013.
Why? Because even the first models of the successing Ref. 145.026 came with this "Transitional" dial, before they were replaced by the final 911 dial with a "round" 3.
I am also very convinced, that all transitional Flightmasters had the red/yellow pushers. Because only the very first tranche (approx. 5000-6000 pieces) of the Cal. 910 Flightmasters had the single-colored pusher. (Source: Book "Flightmaster Only").
Those two aspect lead to my opinion, that your Flightmaster originally was one of the rare 5000-6000 first 910 Flightmasters.
Then, for whatever reason, the original movement (and dial) was replaced between 1972 and 1978.
This particular timeframe, since this specific dial (without dots at 3 and 9) were only used in that period. (Source: Flightmaster Only)
Maybe you check your movement number? Numbers between 31.636.000 and 33.319.999 would date it to 1972-1974. While 35.583.000 - 40.922.449 would date it from 1974 - 1977/78.
Finally, in case you are willling to pay 120 Swiss Francs, I recommend an extract from the Omega archives.
I did it for my 145.013 Transitional and this eleminated my last doubts.
I hope this helps?
Have a nice sunday!
First of all, I am not an expert at all. I just had the opportunity to accidentially purchase a 145.013 Tranistional some years ago.
Hence, my reply is only based on my poor experience with a handful of Flightmasters and/or my personal interpretation/opinion what might have happened with your Flightmaster.
For an expert opinion I recomend to consult the book "Flightmaster Only" or to directly contact its authors who did an awesome job.
As far as I know, all 145.013 "Transitional" came with the typical dial still having the "3" in the 12h-register like the regular 145.013.
Why? Because even the first models of the successing Ref. 145.026 came with this "Transitional" dial, before they were replaced by the final 911 dial with a "round" 3.
I am also very convinced, that all transitional Flightmasters had the red/yellow pushers. Because only the very first tranche (approx. 5000-6000 pieces) of the Cal. 910 Flightmasters had the single-colored pusher. (Source: Book "Flightmaster Only").
Those two aspect lead to my opinion, that your Flightmaster originally was one of the rare 5000-6000 first 910 Flightmasters.
Then, for whatever reason, the original movement (and dial) was replaced between 1972 and 1978.
This particular timeframe, since this specific dial (without dots at 3 and 9) were only used in that period. (Source: Flightmaster Only)
Maybe you check your movement number? Numbers between 31.636.000 and 33.319.999 would date it to 1972-1974. While 35.583.000 - 40.922.449 would date it from 1974 - 1977/78.
Finally, in case you are willling to pay 120 Swiss Francs, I recommend an extract from the Omega archives.
I did it for my 145.013 Transitional and this eleminated my last doubts.
I hope this helps?
Have a nice sunday!
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rspace
·Folks considering purchasing this one. It’s been to Bienne and has all the paperwork to prove it. What do guys think of the work? Is the bracelet correct for this reference ?
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LeCorb
·Folks considering purchasing this one. It’s been to Bienne and has all the paperwork to prove it. What do guys think of the work? Is the bracelet correct for this reference ?
Do you know the history of this watch?
Dial, hands and pushers have been replaced and case has been overhauled by Omega. I personally prefer Flightmasters as original as possible. But for someone who likes a vintage watch "like new" Bienne did definitely a great job.
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rspace
·The bracelet is a Holzer ("Hecho en Mexico" engraved on the clasp). Exclusively Flightmasters (and Speedmasters) sold to/in Mexico were equipped with those bracelets.
Do you know the history of this watch?
Dial, hands and pushers have been replaced and case has been overhauled by Omega. I personally prefer Flightmasters as original as possible. But for someone who likes a vintage watch "like new" Bienne did definitely a great job.
I have an original 911. Now looking for a 910 that I can wear more often.
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esperando
·hello, i would like to introduce myself using the flightmaster as a valid excuse, thus i understand that this thread is perfect for the purpose,
i am mech. eng. by degree and very interested in fine machinery from the 60/80 eras, from cars to cameras, and of course watches. anything that moves, rotates, goes up or down, spins, makes odd noises and smells fuel or grease may reasonably capture my attention.
i have had some watches, i can describe some of them later, nothing really exceptional, most linked to sentimental values, but this case is special.
i have been more an iwc guy, the thing, excuse, was my family proposing to buy a watch for completing my MSc degree, just like they did for my father, and my grand father before, but all those watches were gold omegas,...and i did not like gold watches, so i bought a titanium iwc,...ok but that is another story.
i am here to share and enjoy about this nice new friend...
more to follow, i am just learning how it works,...many questions to answer yet
regards
i am mech. eng. by degree and very interested in fine machinery from the 60/80 eras, from cars to cameras, and of course watches. anything that moves, rotates, goes up or down, spins, makes odd noises and smells fuel or grease may reasonably capture my attention.
i have had some watches, i can describe some of them later, nothing really exceptional, most linked to sentimental values, but this case is special.
i have been more an iwc guy, the thing, excuse, was my family proposing to buy a watch for completing my MSc degree, just like they did for my father, and my grand father before, but all those watches were gold omegas,...and i did not like gold watches, so i bought a titanium iwc,...ok but that is another story.
i am here to share and enjoy about this nice new friend...
more to follow, i am just learning how it works,...many questions to answer yet
regards
