Swatch — omega “Mission to Mars” [VIDEO] HANDS-ON

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Isn't there an automatic SWATCH dispenser with its own parking next to the new museum in Bienne ?

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Indeed the MS21 watches look more blingy with what looks like a white dial... might be Russian Konstantin Chaykin chronographs...
 
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So who said this is a marketing disaster?? You all want to know who the target demographic is? It’s not kids.
It’s us. We are going to buy these for spouses, kids, nephews, friends….

Totally. I'm taking my little dude to the Smithsonian air and space museum tomorrow, and I'd 100% spring for one each for us to wear if they were available in the gift shop.
 
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I just want to know if they're unbearably loud like normal Swatches.

That was my worry as well, but then I recalled that it's 40 years since I last owned a Swatch, and nature/many years of classic rock will have taken care of this problem.
 
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can anyone confirm if we should be trying to get one grey market or if for sure they will be online for everyone to buy? somehow seems too good to be true

 
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I’d find comfort that there’ll definitely be a *chance* to buy these on line, but I wouldn’t rest assured it will be enough of a chance for everyone.

These hype release cycles play pretty close to a standard tune, that rarely excludes some level of product shortage (by design)

And so far, this song is sounding familiar (note eg the calculated excluvely-in-exclusive-stores initial release, etc.)

We haven’t already forgotten Omega saying there’s be enough Snoopy for everyone, right?
 
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VW Group is very careful to sell, market and badge their different tiers separately. I cannot see them ever putting a VW + Porsche badge on a joint-effort SUV... it would be a massive marketing mistake that would undue the hard work they've put into convincing people that Porsche > Audi > VW.

Those vehicles are also a lot closer in tech than these (swatch and Omega) are. The aesthetics (size, overall shape) you might argue are more similar between the watches, but the delivery (colourways, materials, branding, packaging, point of sale) ensures that they are in fact extremely different.

A Moonswatch is not a product that can substitute a Moonwatch other than in the most basic sense, in fact I will argue any day that they are much more different from each other than the vehicles you mentioned above - including the tiers they inhabit 😀
 
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This is the first watch I have ever talked about that my wife immediately said, "those are fun, you should get one".
Hah!

My girlfriend likes them too! She commented that it was great that they weren't more than $260... Wait till she hears about Casios.
 
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Yep agreed. One is massively robust, fit for purpose, hyper accurate and on the money fashion wise. The other is the Omega Moonwatch. 😀

It's funny how this has polarised the forum. Those that seem more worried about 'investment potential' or 'brand identity' are bricking it. Many of us (but not all I concede) are celebrating something genuinely novel and in some ways brave.
 
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I’d find comfort that there’ll definitely be a *chance* to buy these on line, but I wouldn’t rest assured it will be enough of a chance for everyone.

These hype release cycles play pretty close to a standard tune, that rarely excludes some level of product shortage (by design)

And so far, this song is sounding familiar (note eg the calculated excluvely-in-exclusive-stores initial release, etc.)

We haven’t already forgotten Omega saying there’s be enough Snoopy for everyone, right?
The mgr of one of the Swatch locations doing the distribution believes he is getting around 160pcs and US allocation for the first release is around 1600pcs TOTAL not per planet. Second hand info but it’s from todays lunch meeting with the OB manager I use.
 
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Yep agreed. One is massively robust, fit for purpose, hyper accurate and on the money fashion wise. The other is the Omega Moonwatch. 😀

It's funny how this has polarised the forum. Those that seem more worried about 'investment potential' or 'brand identity' are bricking it. Many of us (but not all I concede) are celebrating something genuinely novel and in some ways brave.
So true!

I consider myself an enthusiast and I love it. I have friends who are Rolex snobs who are anti-omega and they have been talking about it and want to buy the new moonswatch.

Im sure they'll get a a moonwatch at some point too
 
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"Cheapening the brand" -- possibly? Watches aren't investments though.

"Cheapening the Speedy" -- LOL. The people that will buy these instead of the Speedy were never going to buy the Speedy anyway. At the very least, we'll have more people interested in the "real" Speedy.
 
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Have been a in London a couple of days with @SpeedyPhill - report to follow. Back now so just missed a chance to pick one of these up on the 26th.
I like the Omega Swatch X planets and think they will be a hit. My only concern is the next step. As a one off stand-alone project great, but if they push more variants and grow a wider range while keeping full Omega branding, that might dilute the brand messages. One thing with Omega, they do always shake the design tree so hats off for that - and to bring out something affordable/ accessible. We saw some lovely Omega watches in London, but often made of unobtainium for most of us.
 
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Yep agreed. One is massively robust, fit for purpose, hyper accurate and on the money fashion wise. The other is the Omega Moonwatch. 😀

I just realised the swatch has managed to produce a Speedmaster case in a ceramic material without adding 1-2mm to the size, something that Omega apparently struggles with. Had the ceramic Seamaster been the same size as the steel one, I would have pined for one...
 
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Yep agreed. One is massively robust, fit for purpose, hyper accurate and on the money fashion wise. The other is the Omega Moonwatch. 😀

Dirty little secret, that 😉


The mgr of one of the Swatch locations doing the distribution believes he is getting around 160pcs and US allocation for the first release is around 1600pcs TOTAL not per planet. Second hand info but it’s from todays lunch meeting with the OB manager I use.

Speaking completely from the armchair but having paid close attention to many such hype high-low roll-outs across industries, I’d place my bet (if forced) on:

(1) Swatch sends only enough units to the (already limited) stores to all but ensure that at least the more desirable units sell out on day one, crossing fingers the less desirable units don’t linger but another day or two

(2) the in-store sellout accomplished, the spectacle maintains hype until and increases how much people fear missing out on, the eventual on-line release

(3) Swatch “sells” many, but not too many!, on-line for high margin D2C shipping in a hurry

(4) But, Swatch’s online sales platform is no match for the scalper’s auto-checkout bots, which honestly Swatch is not too broken up about because…

(5) these things show up on StockX, Grailed, and other hype-gear focused resale platforms at (eventually once early adopter premium outliers settle) 2ish X MSRP for the more coveted colorways

(6) Swatch has then achieved a massive marketing campaign that essentially paid for itself in a return-for-dollar way that no other typical “marketing” platform can achieve

There are some actual marketing folks in here (any from luxury/hype goods segment?) who I’d (genuinely) love to have critique or improve the above prognostication
 
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I just realised the swatch has managed to produce a Speedmaster case in a ceramic material without adding 1-2mm to the size, something that Omega apparently struggles with. Had the ceramic Seamaster been the same size as the steel one, I would have pined for one...

Bioceramic ..... I think you know we will need some specifications before any backflips. A moulded not machined case which is not so far up the MOHs scale is the best guess at that price break ,,,and no contrast polishing.... but need to see one first. Also Delrin is a special low friction / self lubricating ultra light material (not plastic honest ..... ;0)
 
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I just realised the swatch has managed to produce a Speedmaster case in a ceramic material without adding 1-2mm to the size, something that Omega apparently struggles with. Had the ceramic Seamaster been the same size as the steel one, I would have pined for one...

And Longines can produce the Zulu GMT that 13.9 mm thick, yet Omega can't get the PO GMT to a wearable thickness.
 
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And Longines can produce the Zulu GMT that 13.9 mm thick, yet Omega can't get the PO GMT to a wearable thickness.

I just want Certina, Mido or Tissot to get their act together and produce a 41mm diver-type watch with the powermatic 80 movement 🙁
 
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I love it! Finally a Speedmaster worth my money!

Who wants to buy me one annd send it to me?
 
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Dirty little secret, that 😉




Speaking completely from the armchair but having paid close attention to many such hype high-low roll-outs across industries, I’d place my bet (if forced) on:

(1) Swatch sends only enough units to the (already limited) stores to all but ensure that at least the more desirable units sell out on day one, crossing fingers the less desirable units don’t linger but another day or two

(2) the in-store sellout accomplished, the spectacle maintains hype until and increases how much people fear missing out on, the eventual on-line release

(3) Swatch “sells” many, but not too many!, on-line for high margin D2C shipping in a hurry

(4) But, Swatch’s online sales platform is no match for the scalper’s auto-checkout bots, which honestly Swatch is not too broken up about because…

(5) these things show up on StockX, Grailed, and other hype-gear focused resale platforms at (eventually once early adopter premium outliers settle) 2ish X MSRP for the more coveted colorways

(6) Swatch has then achieved a massive marketing campaign that essentially paid for itself in a return-for-dollar way that no other typical “marketing” platform can achieve

There are some actual marketing folks in here (any from luxury/hype goods segment?) who I’d (genuinely) love to have critique or improve the above prognostication

👍 basically the same scenario I laid out both to colleagues and in a chat here. It’s either:
A: what you said except I think for #3 it is a pretty big inventory drop on line. Use the stores and scarcity for the hype, then let people buy “extra ones” online and feed the hype machine. A 1 day out of stock is all you need.

Or B: it’s Snoopy all over again.

edit to add: my bet is on A but I lost Snoopy that way so what do I know