Sotheby's auction - Omega Speedmaster: To the Moon and Back | Celebrating 50 Years since Apollo 11

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I seem to recall the grey dial Speedy as the one I lost to @Spacefruit at auction a couple years back...same bump on the dial between 10 and 11
 
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The tropical with the even brown color:

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Condition Report:
CASE
The case is in very good overall condition, with some light surface scratches visible, and some small nicks on the lugs from wear. The case, in our view, has likely been polished. The lyre lugs retain strong proportions and well defined beveled edges. The bezel has some missing black lacquer material near the 4, 6, 8 and 9 o'clock positions. The caseback retains the original Omega Speedmaster logo with the Seahorse engraving. The bracelet has likely been lightly polished, and displays some minor stretch and surface scratches throughout.
DIAL
The dial is in good overall condition. The hour markers appear to have been relumed earlier in the watch's life, and have some dirt at 3, 5-8, and 10-11 o'clock. The printing on the dial remains crisp and intact.
MOVEMENT
The chronograph function is operating properly, and dustcap is still present. The movement is running at time of cataloguing, however it was not tested for the accuracy of time or duration of the power reserve and may need service at the buyer's discretion. Please note that Sotheby's does not guarantee the future working of the movement.

No 16 is mine. Bought it from the first owner. I don´t believe for a second that the dial has been relumed. I bothers me that Sotheby´s is writing an important piece of description that is pure speculation on their behalf. ”Appears to have been...” What kind of crap is that??
 
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Great pictures, and do you also pictured the inscription on bracelet of lot 49
 
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Great pictures, and do you also pictured the inscription on bracelet of lot 49

I don’t. Sorry about that!
 
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Thanks anyway for the great pictures! I was wondering of the inscription was detoning on the bracelet or could be removed!
 
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So I have written a few lines on each watch. I dont have all the answers, and I may have made some mistakes, but we only have just over two weeks to sale.

If I missed something do chime in. Its meant to help us all and I will update with any new info I get, or corrections.

If anyone is in NY and can get some extra photos and will let me add them in I will.

Last favour, is I could really use some input regarding the 2915 bezels.

Speedmaster101 Review Of Sothebys Sale

Chapeau @Spacefruit 👍
 
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Anyone else been to the preview? any more photos to share?
Cheers, Michael
 
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Anyone else been to the preview? any more photos to share?
Cheers, Michael
Yes, though not many good enough to post.

I took group shots of the two 2915-1s and 2915-2. I thought I had more when the attendant held the tray for me, trying to find better light. But they must have been immediate fails. The light was tough.

Anyway, for obvious reasons, I focused on the early 2998s. Just a few shots.

Lot 3 2998-1



Lot 39 2998-2

Lovely bezel and quite nice overall. The scratches in the minute sub-dial were disclosed in the condition report but not visible in the catalog photo, I believe. Visible in these shots. And the few bezel flaws are more pronounced than in the catalog.



Both of these 2998s had Naiad crowns.



Cases both appeared to be honestly worn.



And the siblings together. Fewer than 30 serial numbers apart.



I didn't examine the bracelet closely.



I was tempted to stay for the auction Friday, which when I asked appeared to be easily open to walk-ins, but decided I needed to move on.

I asked about the archive extracts. How do they get manufacture dates when the best we can do is a delivery date and place? I didn't get a good answer other than they worked with Omega. (I subsequently met Nate but didn't ask him the same questions.) Is the manufacture date here actually the delivery date? They did not have the extracts available for inspection.

Edit: In case it's not apparent, the 2998-1 has a domed dial and the 2998-2 has the small step.
Edited:
 
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I think Nate said that Omega was going to probably provide the certificates just before the auction? I forget. All I remember was that he didn’t have them and was going to get them.
 
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We are getting close.....anyone going?
I went to the reception this evening (and met Apollo 9 LMP Rusty Schweickart!). Looked at and handled Lot 15 ( straight writing, Apollo XI). I don’t have your eye but overall in good shape but think the bezel is not original and the bracelet is in pretty bad shape. Winding the movement, it felt very smooth. Nice piece apart from those things. The Ed Whites estimates seem high IMO.
 
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I received my hard copy catalog in the mail yesterday and found it interesting that with everything at their disposal for research these two made it into the catalog. I know it should not be used as a historical reference guide but maybe a little fact checking before sending it to print might have been in order.

From the auction experts....

Once....



...and twice

 
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You referring to the fact that he wasn’t actually wearing the watch? It was left in the LM, supposedly? Aldrin was wearing his 145.012.
 
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You referring to the fact that he wasn’t actually wearing the watch? It was left in the LM, supposedly? Aldrin was wearing his 145.012.
Wasn't it a 105.012?
 
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I think Nate said that Omega was going to probably provide the certificates just before the auction? I forget. All I remember was that he didn’t have them and was going to get them.

Yep. Said the watches have been verified by omega but some kind of printer issue on their end has delayed the extracts.
 
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Wasn't it a 105.012?
Opinions differ on that for some reason. And the watch itself was “lost” on the way to the Smithsonian.
 
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You referring to the fact that he wasn’t actually wearing the watch?

Are you referring to my post? If so, yes.

The first part I hightlight says Armstrong descended to the surface from the LM and on his wrist was a watch strapped. That is incorrect. There was not.

The second part I highlight says Armstrong set foot on the Moon with a Speedmaster on his wrist. That is incorrect. There was not.

Are my statements incorrect or are theirs?

It was thought for years Aldrin wore the 145.012. The newly identified 105.012 reference was corrected by James Ragan a couple of years ago with his original documentation.

...It was left in the LM, supposedly?

Supposedly? Aldrin says this in his book and Armstrong confirms this in his official NASA oral history.
 
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Should have done this ages ago : anybody care to flex their 'feel for the market' and guess the hammer prices? Always a fun task...
 
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I propose we ask for two predictions:

1. Which lot gets Highest price achieved
2. Which lot Largest percentage over low estimate
 
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And how about a sweepstake - how many lots unsold?