So, who is "going" to the Watches of Knightsbridge Sale today?

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I’ve still got the auction open in my browser. If you log in now you can’t see it

I just logged in, so I can’t see it. Do you know how lot 33, the gold Breitling 815 Long Playing, did? I was interested in it, but was scared off by the very high estimate.
 
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I just logged in, so I can’t see it. Do you know how lot 33, the gold Breitling 815 Long Playing, did? I was interested in it, but was scared off by the very high estimate.

passed
 
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Well I think it was an interesting sale, with far more sold watches that I anticipated.

I was going to bid on the blue dial calibre 860 but decided against it last minute. So many of the watches seem to have been estimated right on the value, and this might be why only one bidder appeared on the sale so often.

I would have loved to hear and see an auctioneer, and to hear the bidding start much lower, and to see the bid history as the item was sold.

I will say it again, I think WOK had a good selection and I think they did a good job of bringing that selection to market. You cannot have an auction full of one owner barnfinds and NOS watches.

I do think their interface needs work, and also I would like to see more activity - I found the process dry, distant and unexiting compared to all the big houses.

I have not done the analysis, (and frankly I am not going to) but my feeling was that the lots passed was about the same as previous sales.

I liked the NAAFI speedmaster and the SW and the 105.012 was a true fixer upper but a bit rich.

As for the future, I doubt there will be any B&M auctions for a while. Indeed the B&M auctions might wonder if they have a future, other than viewing galleries.

Now we can look forward to the autumn season - that is going to be interesting, as a lack confidence might prevent consignors and frankly there are a lot of big houses that will be scrambling to find stock, let alone customers to sell to.

I do not have a crystal ball, and I would like to know who in six months will feel good from this sale, the buyers or the sellers?

A long post but no answer to my question 🙁
 
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The 2 lots I followed were the 2 GMT's, which sold at or slightly above mkt prices IMHO.

Lot 171: 9,000GBP ->$13.9K USD (includes 24% buyers premium)
Lot 172: 9,500GBP->$14.7K USD (includes 24% buyers premium)

Even though I really liked Lot 172, I would NOT be a buyer at those prices for either watch.

So, no sign of softening if you just look at those 2 sales in a vacuum.
 
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Well it seemed to me that rather less than half the Omegas sold, with at one point a string of I think it was 9 passed in a row. If this is normal then fair enough but either they routinely over estimate stuff or stuff just wasn't selling. Many of those that did were at the bottom with one bid.
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Suspect a major re adjustment of the vintage Market is showing here

Could be right about that @ICONO .... but for now I’ll agree with @cchen that WOK may not be the proxy for the market just yet

Does anyone have results...how do we see results?


Interesting....
The bidding clearly shows “Internet” or “Room bid” to get people thinking someone’s bidding on the items, but then they are “Passed”.\
I would call this bollocks, and a stupid way to get people thinking there’s a bidder for the lot.
Down below an example, where clearly shows the lot has one Internet or Room bid, but then if no one else is bidding on it, then it’s Passed? 👎
Or is it because it’s under their estimate, well then why do they show that it’s even a bid??

Perhaps withdrawn due to seller request for minimum sale price? Any other possibility?

WOK had a good selection and I think they did a good job of bringing that selection to market. Y

... although the Zenith A386 didn’t seem in That great condition...the dial at least

Was the Zenith A386 sold (fair price) ?
 
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For posterity:

Than you so much for sharing this. Very helpful to understand where the market stands at right now.
 
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I was watching a few lots. I didn't register in time to actually bid, which just showed my overall level of interest. That clamshell Breitling was on my watchlist and was surprising to me. Watched a couple of Heuer's (57 & 66) I've seen them present at previous auctions passed again. I thought the UG Compax (209) was attractive too, especially if you took it off that cheap looking (imho) BOR, and it sold for less than what I would have paid had I really been in.
 
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I was about to say the same thing, I also noticed this one earlier this week and although I’m far from an expert it looked to have been quite strong. I didn’t see any bargains anyway

i posted it elsewhere. . but how about the guy who dropped 17.5k CHF on a patek 3700 cork box in the middle of a pandemic!
 
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I don't know anything about this auction or the items in it, but I wouldn't take the results (whatever they were) done in the middle of an unprecedented (in modern times) world wide pandemic lockdown, too broadly.

Except I guess if you want insights into how the market will respond if there's another similar situation in the future.

It's hard to imagine a worse time to sell watches, by conventional standards.
 
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Except I guess if you want insights into how the market will respond if there's another similar situation in the future.

It's hard to imagine a worse time to sell watches, by conventional standards.
We’re not even close yet to what will be ahead, so the results of this auction can not be used as a reference to your statement, as the prices will continue to go even lower.

As this pandemic continues and is being fought and eventually won, but when people start to return to work they may realise there’s potentially no work to go to anymore...

The end of this saga is still unwritten, but i hope it’s not as bad as i imagine in my worst scenarios.
 
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On a second note, my opinion on this auction had way too high lower estimates on many of the watches.

There was absolutely no cause to even bid the lowest estimate on many of the ones offered, so the house should really reconsider if they want to get bidders onboard in the future.

Remind you, there’s still the hammer cost to be added and the cost of a full service on most probably every item there was on offer.
 
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We’re not even close yet to what will be ahead, so the results of this auction can not be used as a reference to your statement, as the prices will continue to go even lower.

As this pandemic continues and is being fought and eventually won, but when people start to return to work they may realise there’s potentially no work to go to anymore...

The end of this saga is still unwritten, but i hope it’s not as bad as i imagine in my worst scenarios.

maybe, no one knows. It could get better, worse, or stay the same for a while.

I guess anyone that knows for sure what is going to happen, should place their bets on the stock market and make their millions
 
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On a second note, my opinion on this auction had way too high lower estimates on many of the watches.

I suspect that the auction house had given most estimates to sellers long before the COVID outbreak and the sellers decided to include their watches based on those reserve prices.
 
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I suspect that the auction house had given most estimates to sellers long before the COVID outbreak and the sellers decided to include their watches based on those reserve prices.
True, i second that! These watches must have been commissioned already some months ago, but something needed now to reconsider for next auctions.
 
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We’re not even close yet to what will be ahead, so the results of this auction can not be used as a reference to your statement, as the prices will continue to go even lower.

As this pandemic continues and is being fought and eventually won, but when people start to return to work they may realise there’s potentially no work to go to anymore...

The end of this saga is still unwritten, but i hope it’s not as bad as i imagine in my worst scenarios.

You are correct, of course. But..there may be that "reward" phenomenon that lies ahead: "I made it through this shit-show; I'm going to get myself something really nice to celebrate. What about those unfortunate souls that didn't make, and had regrets. I'm going for it!" The question, though, is when...
 
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You are correct, of course. But..there may be that "reward" phenomenon that lies ahead: "I made it through this shit-show; I'm going to get myself something really nice to celebrate. What about those unfortunate souls that didn't make, and had regrets. I'm going for it!" The question, though, is when...

Indeed: just think about the roaring 20s after the industrial-scale butchering of WW1 in Europe. The pendulum will swing back... at some point.