Seiko World timer 6117 6010 help

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no this was from about 2 years ago when I got it.

this article explains the British Standard time experiment in 1968 when they moved the clocks to British Summer Time for 3 years to try to reduce traffic accidents. It apparently worked, but they went back to the standard time in 1971 I believe. Seiko kept up with the story and made the GMT watches accordingly, separating London from GMT time on what was called "Error Bezel", but actually it was not an error due to the change in time policy from 1968-1971.

https://www.rospa.com/lets-talk-about/2019/october/let鈥檚-go-back-to-1968

If you already know about this I apologize but its an interesting story IMO particularly if you have one of these watches from that period!!

I did not know about this! Thanks for sharing. The data on daylight savings time seems pretty clear across the pond too. It's so odd that we can't just implement better policies based on the research.
 
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I did not know about this! Thanks for sharing. The data on daylight savings time seems pretty clear across the pond too. It's so odd that we can't just implement better policies based on the research.
A nice one just sold at online auction on IG on two_vintage_seikos nicer than mine. Interesting in that the serial number dates watch to Feb 1972, and it has the same separation of London and GMT as mine. The British parliament overturned the experiment and things went back to "normal" in Oct 1971. So I presume that Seiko had a pile of these watches and continued to sell them after the change even though they were no longer correct. So I guess a watch dated after Oct 1971 with this dial would actually be an "error bezel"..
If you dont follow two_vintage_seikos on IG you should have a look- they have some great stuff and are totally reliable, and the auctions are in Australian $ which is about .62 USD. Have a look. You need to follow them first, then they approve you to bid. A little tricky at first but you get it quickly.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpuBiMCL8IC6XI8EpG2qhx7YmPjgZGpLyvLkyY0/
 
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A nice one just sold at online auction on IG on two_vintage_seikos nicer than mine. Interesting in that the serial number dates watch to Feb 1972, and it has the same separation of London and GMT as mine. The British parliament overturned the experiment and things went back to "normal" in Oct 1971. So I presume that Seiko had a pile of these watches and continued to sell them after the change even though they were no longer correct. So I guess a watch dated after Oct 1971 with this dial would actually be an "error bezel"..
If you dont follow two_vintage_seikos on IG you should have a look- they have some great stuff and are totally reliable, and the auctions are in Australian $ which is about .62 USD. Have a look. You need to follow them first, then they approve you to bid. A little tricky at first but you get it quickly.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpuBiMCL8IC6XI8EpG2qhx7YmPjgZGpLyvLkyY0/

Thanks! I do follow them and check the listings every morning. I haven't bid on anything yet but there have been a lot of tempting items... Spent too much already this year though. 馃檮... But now that I said that I just know they're going to list something irresistible to me.
 
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Thanks! I do follow them and check the listings every morning. I haven't bid on anything yet but there have been a lot of tempting items... Spent too much already this year though. 馃檮... But now that I said that I just know they're going to list something irresistible to me.
It can get nutty the time difference sometimes requires setting your alarm to bid at auction ending at 6 am!!!
 
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Hi guys,

I鈥檓 new into Seiko and was recently offered this bad boy. Asking price is USD 600

I鈥檓 looking for advice whether the dial and hands are original. I鈥檓 pretty sure the crown isn鈥檛 the correct one. That鈥檚 the only photo I have for the moment. Will see it in person before I buy. Comes on a beads of rice Seiko bracelet

Any help is appreciated!
not an expert on your inquiry but wanted to say this is a lovely looking reference.... hope it is what you want!
 
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Hiya all, just piggy backing on an older thread. I found what appears to be a good example of a 6117 6010. What do you guys think about its authenticity and what would be the fair market value? The serial number appears to be consistent for this version of wording on the black bezel and appears to be from February 1968. Thanks for any feedback!
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Hiya all, just piggy backing on an older thread. I found what appears to be a good example of a 6117 6010. What do you guys think about its authenticity and what would be the fair market value? The serial number appears to be consistent for this version of wording on the black bezel and appears to be from February 1968. Thanks for any feedback!
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Looks completely authentic to me. And in pretty good overall condition too. Difficult to see, but the case may have had a polish. Hard to say what fair market value is. The black dial 6117-601X is rare among these 60s Seiko world timers. More uncommon than the 1964 olympic one. But those will be more in demand because it's the first model and has the olympic connection. Value would also depend on the movement running well and if it's been serviced recently.
 
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Looks completely authentic to me. And in pretty good overall condition too. Difficult to say what fair market value is. The black dial 6117-601X is rare among these 60s Seiko world timers. More uncommon than the 1964 olympic one. But those may still be more in demand because it's the first model and has the olympic connection. Value would also depend on the movement running well and if it's been serviced recently.
Thanks for the feedback 馃榾 Apparently it's been serviced last year and running as it should. The bracelet seems to be consistent with examples online as well. The asking price is about USD600.
 
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A couple of mine from 1964:

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And with a couple more of the subsequent models (a 6117-6010 and 6217-7010):

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Thanks for the feedback 馃榾 Apparently it's been serviced last year and running as it should. The bracelet seems to be consistent with examples online as well. The asking price is about USD600.
Like I said, I find it hard to give a market value. But if it were me looking to buy that watch with the recent service and the bracelet I wouldn't consider $600 unreasonable.
 
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Like I said, I find it hard to give a market value. But if it were me looking to buy that watch with the recent service and the bracelet I wouldn't consider $600 unreasonable.
Thanks!
 
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Thanks!
If you do decide to buy it, post some pictures here when it's arrived. Never enough Seiko world timers!