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Question for Watchmakers - Minute and Hour hands do not move but seconds do

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Be aware they don't make that crown any more, so one way or another you're likely to lose it.

Not if he uses the right watchmaker. If one of my customers wants to leave a crown on, I don't force them to change it...it's up to them.
 
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Not if he uses the right watchmaker. If one of my customers wants to leave a crown on, I don't force them to change it...it's up to them.
Indeed true! My watchmaker, for example, can frequently change the seals in a crown.

The two companies under discussion, Nesbits or Omega... they won't. You get a new crown and what fits.
 
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I’ve had three watches that were sold as “working perfectly” arrive via post with a loose canon pinion in the last year (one of them had just been serviced and I had paperwork to that affect). - all easily tightened by my local watchmaker and working fine now.
I speculate it may be sonic vibration during shipping on a pinion that was already a little loose.
I had to have to the shutters in my lenses rebuilt annually due to the internal screws working themselves out during air travel- sometimes I would find them in pieces in their flight cases- not from impact but just shaken apart
 
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Indeed true! My watchmaker, for example, can frequently change the seals in a crown.

The two companies under discussion, Nesbits or Omega... they won't. You get a new crown and what fits.

The Omega Service Center and Nesbits are both not in consideration for me, I am looking to keep the watch as original as possible. I could send it to Omega and have a brand new movement basically but they will polish the case, change the hands, crown, literally everything. I don't wish to go that route.

I will be looking for a watchmaker who will be comfortable with my desire to keep the watch as original as possible. Yes agree the 166.010 isn't worth a ton but its a watch i have wanted for some time.
 
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I’ve had three watches that were sold as “working perfectly” arrive via post with a loose canon pinion in the last year (one of them had just been serviced and I had paperwork to that affect). - all easily tightened by my local watchmaker and working fine now.
I speculate it may be sonic vibration during shipping on a pinion that was already a little loose.
I had to have to the shutters in my lenses rebuilt annually due to the internal screws working themselves out during air travel- sometimes I would find them in pieces in their flight cases- not from impact but just shaken apart

This is interesting. It came via DHL, incredibly quick transit time (24hrs) Went over the Pacific Ocean to CVG then to SEA so two plane rides, countless automated conveyor belts and slides, maybe some human rough handling too?? Who knows?? Like you said if it was loose to begin with then a little bit of vibration would likely cause this.
 
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The Omega Service Center and Nesbits are both not in consideration for me, I am looking to keep the watch as original as possible. I could send it to Omega and have a brand new movement basically but they will polish the case, change the hands, crown, literally everything. I don't wish to go that route.

I will be looking for a watchmaker who will be comfortable with my desire to keep the watch as original as possible. Yes agree the 166.010 isn't worth a ton but its a watch i have wanted for some time.

Nothing wrong with this position. I frequently say, your money, your choice. Yours is in a lot better condition than mine is; mine looks like it was dragged behind a truck.

But where I do mine I'll have to give some consideration....
 
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Canon pinion is not going to works itself loose while being sent. It's worn over time and use.

I fixed them by using a sprue cutter to squeeze it a touch and a broaching tool to resize to fit.

They're price for a cleaning is quite high. Almost as bad as Omega's. Omega's full rotor movements are simple to work on. Far easier than Longines from the same era.

Maybe find someone local.

DON
 
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I speculate it may be sonic vibration during shipping on a pinion that was already a little loose.

Not really...
 
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Cannon pinion acts like a clutch in a car (Al is going to pick this one apart). If you ship a car to someone and the clutch goes out then the clutch was bad (or about to go bad) before the car was shipped. This is assuming the car was not used during shipment.
 
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Cannon pinion is really easy to fix like Al said. Very easy for a watchmaker. Either replace or adjust (I call it the love pinch). Unless we are talking the dreaded offset cannon pinion 😉
 
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Cannon pinion is really easy to fix like Al said. Very easy for a watchmaker. Either replace or adjust (I call it the love pinch). Unless we are talking the dreaded offset cannon pinion 😉

Thank you, Either way it will be getting fixed. Not a great start but he will all work out i am sure.
 
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US$ 700 ? For this ? Wow. .... We should jack up our prices. We charge A$ 500 for a chrono 861 service without parts..... that is half your price. kind regards. Achim
 
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Let's all just realize that watchmakers have higher demands in some places and have higher availability in other places.

In the United States, there seems to be a lack of young watchmakers, and the older ones are retiring with greater frequency. So trusted watchmakers are hard to find and get paid a lot when you can find them.

Where you are, therre might be a lot of them and they can't charge a lot.

We are truly international and we don't need people saying "that costs too much". It all varies.
 
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We are truly international and we don't need people saying "that costs too much". It all varies.

This is one reason I like the little national flags or country of origin tags some forums use, sometimes we go down long rabbit holes with a member seeking help and then realize the info isn't even pertinent in some cases.
 
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We are truly international and we don't need people saying "that costs too much". It all varies.

The big cities on the west coast of North America have incredibly high real estate prices, wages, and costs of living, so of course prices follow. Also there is a large cadre of very highly paid professionals who can afford the prices and keep these shops in business. Getting even the simplest movement serviced for under $500 in the SF Bay Area is challenging!
 
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