Post your Longineseses'

I have one genuine from my LLD but now, I wish a golden one.

Thanks for the link.

Is that a black dial or blue? I can't really tell from the angle.

Longines Automatic Cal. 22AS - 37,5mm Steelcase

I only got This Legend...

Traveler,

1. The Longines staff on the historical department answer questions for a salary. The Longines experts on this site do it for the sake of passion. Which do you think are more likely to be accurate?

2. If you post a watch on this forum, you are subjecting it to the scrutiny of its members. Are you telling me that if you were wearing a fake watch (not that the Longines is fake) and didn't know it - you wouldn't want an informed member to tell you so? You'd consider it rude? The point of this forum to to help share and educate. If you are sore because somebody appraised your watch - told you information about the possible origins of the dial and hands and case and movement - I can only think you're riding on fragile wishful thinking. Ideas should stand up to debate or be discarded. He presented his view and you yours. It's important to note that opinions are not all equal. It's true that we can only postulate on the originality on a given watch - but years of experience gives one pattern recognition and depth. They know how to look for - not just what to look for. This does not mean his opinion is the law and your is worthless - but the world is not black and white. It's simply the case that the opinion of a seasoned collector is more valuable than one who is not a seasoned collector.

3. It's theoretically possible that your watch is original and was given a decades old new stock dial. Does that mean it's likely? That's a different question entirely. The answer is that it's unlikely. Collectors like to look at a watch as a whole to estimate the likelihood of originality. It's one of the few trump cards we have. The fact is, the hands are all (with the exception of the chronograph minute hand) probably replacements. One of the second hands is too short and the hour and minute hands also look too short. This coupled with the fact that the dial and the case most certainly were produced decades apart presents a dubious picture.

It's important to emphasis: It's possible this is a freak watch - but we must be honest with ourselves about the chances of this being so and if the chances are slim, we must accept that and not hinge on the hopeful thoughts of positivity.

Here is a video, including movement - for those interested.

Thanks for the response, Traveler.

I did not imply that the Longines staff knowingly gave you false information. I am saying that when it comes to vintage watches, as with anything else, the person who can give you the most accurate answer is the person who has studied the subject the longest and most thoroughly.

The collectors on forums like this are driven to understand the fine nuances of the watches they collect, which a paid employee will very likely not be motivated to do. They can say it's possible, just like we are. It's a matter of the probability, based on all of the evidence.

ConElPueblo,

If you are implying that OF members are so unethical as to knowingly falsify evidence and opinions just to manipulate the market, let me know.

I for one have always found our members to be selfless and considerate to others. That is why this forum exists at all.

I would state (as an "expert") that (concerning the Hodinkee thing) it is not competent to write several sentences about a "tooth" which blocks the flyback-function and, below, to describe a movement equipped with that "tooth" as a flyback-movement. That´s a bad joke...
And I don´t think that it´s useful and reasonable to transport such information-trash further on and on and on...
That was one reason i wrote about that article; perhaps it´s interesting to someone, perhaps not.

Here's my 2012 Record Vernier Column Wheel Chrono on a new strap... great watch that keeps amazing time!

And I can't forget this beauty! The perfect dress watch, so slim and understated!