Possible new 300m spotted on Daniel Craig

josiahg52

I'll say again, I think the size issue of the current Seamaster is overblown.

2254.50 SMP300
41mm x 12mm 158g LtL 47mm

Green SMP300
42mm x 14mm 198g LtL 50mm

Heavily rounded using inaccurate, but precise enough calipers.

Jakeys

It just makes me think of this these days, heh.



Felt inspired, and since I actually quite enjoyed making those renders the other day, here's one (probably) final one - my dream fifth gen Seamaster concept. Changes made to current fourth gen:

* Reduced HEV length. I don't think it should be removed because it's part of the model's identity, but it should be smaller like the earlier gens.
* Tapered the Bond bracelet, from 20 mm lug width to 18 mm at clasp. A 1 mm reduction per outermost link would be subtle but effective.
* Used the 60th anniversary first gen wave dial to clean it up, but kept the fourth gen red accent to keep it modern, and the date wheel to keep it competitive. But I'd like to see date and no date options, frankly. Also, kept the fourth gen low dome crystal. I love the big dome on the heritage models, but I don't think it's appropriate for modern references.
* Added an applied Omega logo, as per the current generation sapphire sandwich Speedmasters. Calls back to the second gen and third gen applied logos and elevates the dial a little to reflect the higher price points lately.
* Added a watermark after what happened last time, although the hype's probably passed already. Would not be on the final watch 😜

Also, it isn't reflected in the mockup but I would like to see a return to 40-41 mm case size, 47 mm lug to lug and 12-13 mm thickness. Ideally 12 mm, but I imagine they'd keep the sapphire exhibition caseback so a cap at 13 mm is probably more realistic.

Jakeys

It just makes me think of this these days, heh.



Felt inspired, and since I actually quite enjoyed making those renders the other day, here's one (probably) final one - my dream fifth gen Seamaster concept. Changes made to current fourth gen:

* Reduced HEV length. I don't think it should be removed because it's part of the model's identity, but it should be smaller like the earlier gens.
* Tapered the Bond bracelet, from 20 mm lug width to 18 mm at clasp. A 1 mm reduction per outermost link would be subtle but effective.
* Used the 60th anniversary first gen wave dial to clean it up, but kept the fourth gen red accent to keep it modern, and the date wheel to keep it competitive. But I'd like to see date and no date options, frankly. Also, kept the fourth gen low dome crystal. I love the big dome on the heritage models, but I don't think it's appropriate for modern references.
* Added an applied Omega logo, as per the current generation sapphire sandwich Speedmasters. Calls back to the second gen and third gen applied logos and elevates the dial a little to reflect the higher price points lately.
* Added a watermark after what happened last time, although the hype's probably passed already. Would not be on the final watch 😜

Also, it isn't reflected in the mockup but I would like to see a return to 40-41 mm case size, 47 mm lug to lug and 12-13 mm thickness. Ideally 12 mm, but I imagine they'd keep the sapphire exhibition caseback so a cap at 13 mm is probably more realistic.

mossrockss

I'm excited about this. It tells me Omega is moving in the right direction and/or listening.

But if I really wanted this watch… I'd just buy the 2500 pre-ceramic 41mm model 212.30.41.20.01.002.

Annapolis

To me, at least, 90% of what makes this newly-teased watch exciting is the fact that it has no date.

Annapolis

I can’t help thinking this will end up being a limited or non-standard edition solely because it’s on the Milanese and I don’t see Omega scrapping the typical SMP bracelet that’s such a part of the modern diver’s DNA. Unless we’re meant to believe that one aspect of the forthcoming change is that there will be a standard option for the Milanese going forward…

4011021

If they make it's smaller, thinner, come back to previous wave pattern etc, it loses this fun factor that sets it apart from other more serious/luxury looking divers (e.g. Seamaster 300, Tudor, Rolex... ). You might like it or not, prefer it or not, but it will be a very different watch.

Annapolis

Any bets on whether the new no-date diver will bear the 8806 or 8912 movement? (Guessing they won’t issue a new one unless they’re adding spirate.)

Annapolis

Any bets on whether the new no-date diver will bear the 8806 or 8912 movement? (Guessing they won’t issue a new one unless they’re adding spirate.)

Jakeys

I still think this is a limited edition of the current gen for reasons previously covered.

padders

Regarding the depth, Here is a pic Chuck Maddox took of the 14.5mm deep 2201.50 original PO vs the original SMP. The difference looks pretty marked to me, though it wouldn’t be so with a current SMP which has got a lot fatter. Note there have been 17mm deep POs too.

I wear thicker watches myself without a thought, but unless you’ve tried one don’t dismiss just how thin the first SMPs were, they disappear on the wrist. Sadly movement changes and display backs have consigned that to history.

Jakeys

Love this, really puts it into perspective. Wonder if there's any die hards on this forum with one SMP of each gen (Well, first third fourth) they could line up like that? Or even just a first/second and fourth? As the current SMP isn't quite as thick as the PO at 13.6 mm. Though closer to a first gen PO than a first gen SMP by far.

Google fu indicates:

First Gen SMP: 11.5 mm
Second Gen SMP: Unchanged
Third Gen SMPc: 12.8 mm (+11%)
Fourth Gen SMD: 13.6 mm (+18%)

First Gen PO 42: 14.5 mm
Current Gen PO 43: 16.1 mm

I considered whipping something up in Photoshop, but Omega don't provide side profile shots other than a generic diagram, so you'd be approximating lug and crystal shapes or using iffy slightly different photos. Not as valuable as a photo.