Possible new 300m spotted on Daniel Craig

Jakeys · Aug 8, 2024

ErichPryde
You were eventually given credit in that thread! 👍

Haha, if you also just read it like I did, the person giving me credit in that thread is... me!

Having said that, Teddy Baldassarre's marketing team have made the exact same watch in exactly the same way as me, so I can see why it is being incorrectly attributed to them. I thought maybe they'd ripped me off, but I found his and his has the lines under the numerals. If they'd taken mine, I'm certain they'd have missed I swapped those out for dots.

So the Reddit thread is indeed mine, but Teddy didn't take anything, he just made his own remarkably similar to mine. No beef between Jakeys and Teddy today. 😉

ErichPryde · Aug 8, 2024

I wondered at the name "Jkaeys" but the spelling threw me.

Also, spoiler alert: Teddy's team also stole your image and reused it 😵‍💫😵‍💫😎😜😜 (I don't actually know for sure but you should email him for payment of services rendered)

Jakeys · Aug 8, 2024

ErichPryde
Also, spoiler alert: Teddy's team also stole your image and reused it 😵‍💫😵‍💫😎😜😜 (I don't actually know for sure but you should email him for payment of services rendered)

I would actually be genuinely annoyed if Teddy had stolen it, because he's got a hell of a lot more money than me and he would profit off that social media post. So he'd be profiting off my time, even if neither of us owns the intellectual property since it is fundamentally a render of an Omega product. Still, that's quite different from random Instagram pages or Redditors lifting an image off the net. But he did the right thing and had his in house marketing team make it.

Actually it's kind of flattering in a way that an image I made for fun in 15 minutes on this forum is so similar to one a business's paid marketing department made!

Walrus · Aug 9, 2024

Jakeys
No, it's literally the mockup I made yesterday, stolen and repurposed on Reddit. That extended lug is just whoever made it has incorrectly cropped the background on that corner. You can tell it's mine because of my hypothesis (later proved to be wrong) that the bezel had removed the lines under numerals, so I swapped them out for dots. Subsequent photos show that's not correct, it's the standard bezel with lines.

I don't really care some Redditor has taken my mockup, it's not like I own the intellectual property, but it is funny they've passed it off as a leak when I literally put "Jakeys mockup for OF" in the image. 😜

Sorry about that. I just saw the pic and copied it didn’t realize it had been used without permission. Not an avid Reddit user I just browse.

Jakeys · Aug 9, 2024

Walrus
Sorry about that. I just saw the pic and copied it didn’t realize it had been used without permission. Not an avid Reddit user I just browse.

Oh no apology needed! Wasn't saying you did anything.

dstfno · Aug 9, 2024

ErichPryde
In recent years this has not been universally true, the current Sapphire sandwich speedy is 13.2 mm thick vs the hesalite version, which is 13.6mm thick iirc. Prior generation 1863 Sapphire sandwich was 13.5 mm vs what, ~~14mm thick hesalite? Omega's display case backs have gotten thinner or at least, not always resulted in a thicker Sapphire version.

That said, I'm still in camp steel caseback on this, but don't think we'll get it.

But I'm sure the glass for the caseback of a watch that only has to withstand 5bar of water pressure will be thinner than the one on a 300m diver.

josiahg52 · Aug 9, 2024

I'll say again, I think the size issue of the current Seamaster is overblown.

2254.50 SMP300
41mm x 12mm 158g LtL 47mm

Green SMP300
42mm x 14mm 198g LtL 50mm

Heavily rounded using inaccurate, but precise enough calipers.

There's not just enough a difference to matter to me. Watches wear differently for everyone, but the "OMG, it's sooooo big!" is just ridiculous. It is heavier and that's what I feel the most. It wasn't a deal breaker by any means and it was overcome by using aftermarket bracelets. Still a bit top heavy, though. Now I wonder if the clear case back is what adds the bit of thickness. IIRC, the differences in the dimensions of the cal. 1120 vs 8800 weren't crazy, but I think the 8800 was heavier.

reverbtime · Aug 9, 2024

josiahg52
I'll say again, I think the size issue of the current Seamaster is overblown.

2254.50 SMP300
41mm x 12mm 158g LtL 47mm

Green SMP300
42mm x 14mm 198g LtL 50mm

Heavily rounded using inaccurate, but precise enough calipers.

There's not just enough a difference to matter to me. Watches wear differently for everyone, but the "OMG, it's sooooo big!" is just ridiculous. It is heavier and that's what I feel the most. It wasn't a deal breaker by any means and it was overcome by using aftermarket bracelets. Still a bit top heavy, though. Now I wonder if the clear case back is what adds the bit of thickness. IIRC, the differences in the dimensions of the cal. 1120 vs 8800 weren't crazy, but I think the 8800 was heavier.

On paper the difference may not seem much, but every mm size difference counts. At least when I tried both in the flesh, the difference between both was substantial and enough to avoid the current SMP300.

Jakeys · Aug 9, 2024

reverbtime
On paper the difference may not seem much, but every mm size difference counts. At least when I tried both in the flesh, the difference between both was substantial and enough to avoid the current SMP300.

Agreed. 3 mm between a 36 mm diameter watch and a 39 mm is generally agreed to be quite significant, I can see why it would be similar on lug to lug. Millimetres matter a surprising amount on wrist. Same goes for the thickness.

texasmade · Aug 9, 2024

The 3mm L2L difference is a huge. It means the watch fitting vs overpowering my wrist.

ErichPryde · Aug 9, 2024

dstfno
But I'm sure the glass for the caseback of a watch that only has to withstand 5bar of water pressure will be thinner than the one on a 300m diver.

I would agree.

Guggenheim · Aug 9, 2024

Looks to me like a 40mm model

GeneCC · Aug 9, 2024

Can I pre order mine in black with all brushed no polished bits and on the standard 300 SMP bracelet all brushed ?

Cod Holliday · Aug 9, 2024

G GeneCC
Can I pre order mine in black with all brushed no polished bits and on the standard 300 SMP bracelet all brushed ?

So you want a secret service issue?

eldiano84 · Aug 9, 2024

The bond 60th is a bit big because they had to fit the caseback animation and the bezel’s wider, but maybe this is a regular sized one which looks smaller for a change

What would the MSRP?

Eddie K · Aug 9, 2024

E eldiano84
The bond 60th is a bit big because they had to fit the caseback animation and the bezel’s wider, but maybe this is a regular sized one which looks smaller for a change

What would the MSRP?

mossrockss · Aug 10, 2024

I'm excited about this. It tells me Omega is moving in the right direction and/or listening.

But if I really wanted this watch… I'd just buy the 2500 pre-ceramic 41mm model 212.30.41.20.01.002.

It's 13.0mm thick. It's 41mm. It's got the shorter L2L. It looks great on the other bracelets Omega made, whether the Speedmaster/Peter Blake style, or the three-link Aqua Terra bracelets, or even the new mesh.

I owned one for like a month recently, getting it on a whim kind of by accident when a seller accepted a lower offer than I expected him to. I sold it because I own the 2220.80 and the 2201.50 PO, so I didn't feel a need for it in my collection. But boy did it make a positive impression on me.

I am fully on-board with all the improvements and innovations Omega has introduced since that model ceased production—METAS and anti-magnetism are great; ceramic bezels are great; the quality and finishing has improved tremendously. So I understand why we all want Omega to make new watches with our checklist of wants.

But this watch is so recent that I feel there are almost zero downsides to sourcing one pre-owned (assuming you can find one, of course, which at times is easy and at other times is harder). And there are things I like better about the older 41mm case that I just don't see Omega going back to, namely the 15-minute diving scale and smaller numerals on the bezel and the skinnier, more elegant lugs.

Some photos to illustrate the point. Images are my own, except the last one, which I grabbed from a Reddit post from 2 years ago.

Jakeys · Aug 10, 2024

mossrockss
But if I really wanted this watch… I'd just buy the 2500 pre-ceramic 41mm model 212.30.41.20.01.002.

Great sales pitch, kind of agree actually! This is exactly why Omega need to move back in this direction. A modernised version of that reference with current gen movement, ceramic bezel and updated bracelet would be an instant hit.

apsm100 · Aug 10, 2024

Jakeys
Haha, if you also just read it like I did, the person giving me credit in that thread is... me!

Having said that, Teddy Baldassarre's marketing team have made the exact same watch in exactly the same way as me, so I can see why it is being incorrectly attributed to them. I thought maybe they'd ripped me off, but I found his and his has the lines under the numerals. If they'd taken mine, I'm certain they'd have missed I swapped those out for dots.

So the Reddit thread is indeed mine, but Teddy didn't take anything, he just made his own remarkably similar to mine. No beef between Jakeys and Teddy today. 😉

This made me LOL. And your profile photo keeps triggering my brain to play the N64 golden eye theme (the 'Facility' theme actually).

Jakeys · Aug 11, 2024

apsm100
And your profile photo keeps triggering my brain to play the N64 golden eye theme (the 'Facility' theme actually).

It just makes me think of this these days, heh.

Jakeys
Great sales pitch, kind of agree actually! This is exactly why Omega need to move back in this direction. A modernised version of that reference with current gen movement, ceramic bezel and updated bracelet would be an instant hit.

Felt inspired, and since I actually quite enjoyed making those renders the other day, here's one (probably) final one - my dream fifth gen Seamaster concept. Changes made to current fourth gen:

* Reduced HEV length. I don't think it should be removed because it's part of the model's identity, but it should be smaller like the earlier gens.
* Tapered the Bond bracelet, from 20 mm lug width to 18 mm at clasp. A 1 mm reduction per outermost link would be subtle but effective.
* Used the 60th anniversary first gen wave dial to clean it up, but kept the fourth gen red accent to keep it modern, and the date wheel to keep it competitive. But I'd like to see date and no date options, frankly. Also, kept the fourth gen low dome crystal. I love the big dome on the heritage models, but I don't think it's appropriate for modern references.
* Added an applied Omega logo, as per the current generation sapphire sandwich Speedmasters. Calls back to the second gen and third gen applied logos and elevates the dial a little to reflect the higher price points lately.
* Added a watermark after what happened last time, although the hype's probably passed already. Would not be on the final watch 😜

Also, it isn't reflected in the mockup but I would like to see a return to 40-41 mm case size, 47 mm lug to lug and 12-13 mm thickness. Ideally 12 mm, but I imagine they'd keep the sapphire exhibition caseback so a cap at 13 mm is probably more realistic.

Possible new 300m spotted on Daniel Craig

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Walrus

Jakeys

dstfno

josiahg52

reverbtime

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texasmade

ErichPryde

Guggenheim

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eldiano84

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mossrockss

Jakeys

apsm100

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