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Sure, but wouldn’t Omega (or Rolex or any other manufacturer) be able to “recycle” the white gold from old hands or indices?

Policies vary widely in this regard.

Omega returns the parts they remove from the watch (this is one reason why PM watches cost more for servicing).

Rolex does everything on an exchange basis, so you are never aware of what they actually replace on their watches (this is a deliberate thing - if you don't get back a big bag of worn and damaged parts, it gives the impression that their watches are somehow more robust - it's marketing).
 
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Sure, but wouldn’t Omega (or Rolex or any other manufacturer) be able to “recycle” the white gold from old hands or indices?

Wonder how many sets of hands it would take to make it worth the effort to melt and separate the gold from the hands? Probably a lot. Still doesn’t convince me it is better.
 
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Because it's standard practice for brands to replace hands at service. Most brands don't have trained watchmakers removing the hands when the watch comes in - this stage of disassembly is typically done by people hired off the street and are given some on the job training, so this can lead to damage. In a service center time is at a premium, so even having to take the time to check at the hands to see if they need replacing is too much time, so new hands are installed automatically.

Omega don’t always return hands so I find this statement unlikely.
 
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This topic has gone off my original point.

Some Replies contradict which isn’t a surprise.

I’ve no doubt solid white gold like Rolex is more expensive than rhodium plating like Omega and even Tag Heuer entry level Aquaracer has

Guess I felt if a PO is competing with a Sub the hands should be of similar luxury status. Tiring to hear Plating brass with Rodium is as good as solid white gold (yes I know it’s yellow gold underneath). Note Tag marketing pitches it’s Rhodium plating as do Rolex pitch their solid white gold. Omega say nothing for a reason. Omega Marketing want to say more than a £1500 tag watch otherwise better say nothing.

Anyway, I’ve had gen 1, gen 2 and now gen 3. Lovely watches and lots to be happy about. Some seem to think this is a complaint post. Incorrect. It’s a facts post. Getting the reality so one can enjoy truth rather than Tim of watch box myths.
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Because it's standard practice for brands to replace hands at service. Most brands don't have trained watchmakers removing the hands when the watch comes in - this stage of disassembly is typically done by people hired off the street and are given some on the job training, so this can lead to damage. In a service center time is at a premium, so even having to take the time to check at the hands to see if they need replacing is too much time, so new hands are installed automatically.

Just got off the phone with Omega Customer Service and they say it depends on the condition of the hands.

I bought a 2nd Gen PO recently and they have it as it runs fine on any side but +30,+40 or more on my wrist. They can’t find anything wrong with it and suggest a complete service. Having it returned and I will probably return to seller. Had already decided to do just that and found a 3rd gen well priced and bought that! Problem is on receipt of third gen I’m thinking 2nd gen suits me more.

Decisions decisions. At least I now know both watches have the same rhodium plating so my decision isn’t messed up by a false statement By Tim on the watch box.
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Guess I felt if a PO is competing with a Sub [...]
But why?
Diver 300m and Sub are entry level dive watches of both companies.
Planet Ocean and Sea-Dweller are peers as "tier 2" dive watches.

[...] the hands should be of similar luxury status.
There are many watches made by other brands where level of precious metals outperforms any steel Omega or Rolex, and yet the luxurius status of those watches is somehow subpar to status given by those two brands. The luxury status is probably more complex than the materials used.
 
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Omega don’t always return hands so I find this statement unlikely.
But why?
Diver 300m and Sub are entry level dive watches of both companies.
Planet Ocean and Sea-Dweller are peers as "tier 2" dive watches.


There are many watches made by other brands where level of precious metals outperforms any steel Omega or Rolex, and yet the luxurius status of those watches is somehow subpar to status given by those two brands. The luxury status is probably more complex than the materials used.


ok sub or sea dweller the point is still the same.

Materials is a major part of luxury.
 
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Materials is a major part of luxury.
You think two-tone 116613LB is more luxurious than steel 116610LV?
 
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Just got off the phone with Omega Customer Service and they say it depends on the condition of the hands.

I wouldn't expect a customer service rep to be fluent in all of Omega's written policies, so take what the person on the phone tells you with a grain of salt. I've read all the policies personally.

But regardless of policy debates, your point that if they were made of solid gold, they wouldn't need to be replaced is simply not logical. There's nothing about solid gold hands that make them less likely to be in need of replacing. They scratch just as easily, and in fact being softer and more ductile are more likely to become loose on the posts.

If you really need a watch with solid gold hands, buy that brand instead if it's a major factor for you. For the vast majority of people it isn't, but we are all different in our wants.
 
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This topic has gone off my original point.

Some Replies contradict which isn’t a surprise.

I’ve no doubt solid white gold like Rolex is more expensive than rhodium plating like Omega and even Tag Heuer entry level Aquaracer has

Guess I felt if a PO is competing with a Sub the hands should be of similar luxury status. Tiring to hear Plating brass with Rodium is as good as solid white gold (yes I know it’s yellow gold underneath). Note Tag marketing pitches it’s Rhodium plating as do Rolex pitch their solid white gold. Omega say nothing for a reason. Omega Marketing want to say more than a £1500 tag watch otherwise better say nothing.

Anyway, I’ve had gen 1, gen 2 and now gen 3. Lovely watches and lots to be happy about. Some seem to think this is a complaint post. Incorrect. It’s a facts post. Getting the reality so one can enjoy truth rather than Tim of watch box myths.

I think you missed my point. White gold is a rather dull metal in its natural alloy, with a yellowish-gray sheen. What makes it shiny is rhodium-plating, the exact same rhodium-plating done on steel hands. Yes, using white gold as a base metal will be slightly more expensive than using steel, but I doubt it’s more than a few grams at most (so maybe an extra $100). The point is, one can’t really tell the difference visually because BOTH are rhodium-plated. That’s one reason there’s all the misinformation about the Omega hands.

If you think white gold hands are better and more luxurious, that’s fine. But from a practical viewpoint, there really is no substantial difference because they are both rhodium-plated.
 
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I wouldn't expect a customer service rep to be fluent in all of Omega's written policies, so take what the person on the phone tells you with a grain of salt. I've read all the policies personally.

But regardless of policy debates, your point that if they were made of solid gold, they wouldn't need to be replaced is simply not logical. There's nothing about solid gold hands that make them less likely to be in need of replacing. They scratch just as easily, and in fact being softer and more ductile are more likely to become loose on the posts.

If you really need a watch with solid gold hands, buy that brand instead if it's a major factor for you. For the vast majority of people it isn't, but we are all different in our wants.
I wouldn't expect a customer service rep to be fluent in all of Omega's written policies, so take what the person on the phone tells you with a grain of salt. I've read all the policies personally.

But regardless of policy debates, your point that if they were made of solid gold, they wouldn't need to be replaced is simply not logical. There's nothing about solid gold hands that make them less likely to be in need of replacing. They scratch just as easily, and in fact being softer and more ductile are more likely to become loose on the posts.

If you really need a watch with solid gold hands, buy that brand instead if it's a major factor for you. For the vast majority of people it isn't, but we are all different in our wants.
 
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I wouldn't expect a customer service rep to be fluent in all of Omega's written policies, so take what the person on the phone tells you with a grain of salt. I've read all the policies personally.

But regardless of policy debates, your point that if they were made of solid gold, they wouldn't need to be replaced is simply not logical. There's nothing about solid gold hands that make them less likely to be in need of replacing. They scratch just as easily, and in fact being softer and more ductile are more likely to become loose on the posts.

If you really need a watch with solid gold hands, buy that brand instead if it's a major factor for you. For the vast majority of people it isn't, but we are all different in our wants.

No hands being changed on my quote.

You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about and you’ve annoyed me with your arrogance more than once so that’s why I’m no longer being polite.

Your answers are nonsense
 
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You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about and you’ve annoyed me so that’s why I’m no longer being polite.

Your answers are nonsense

Well thanks for letting me know...

Being an Omega certified watchmaker, being trained by Omega, etc., well I guess you clearly know more about all this than I do, so carry on.
 
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I think you missed my point. White gold is a rather dull metal in its natural alloy, with a yellowish-gray sheen. What makes it shiny is rhodium-plating, the exact same rhodium-plating done on steel hands. Yes, using white gold as a base metal will be slightly more expensive than using steel, but I doubt it’s more than a few grams at most (so maybe an extra $100). The point is, one can’t really tell the difference visually because BOTH are rhodium-plated. That’s one reason there’s all the misinformation about the Omega hands.

If you think white gold hands are better and more luxurious, that’s fine. But from a practical viewpoint, there really is no substantial difference because they are both rhodium-plated.

Of course it’s more luxurious. It’s a no brainier and that’s why Omega don’t mention it. Because Rolex use white gold.
 
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Well thanks for letting me know...

Being an Omega certified watchmaker, being trained by Omega, etc., well I guess you clearly know more about all this than I do, so carry on.

The proof is there and your arrogance saying I’m talking nonsense is there too.

Maybe rethink your attitude. Typical of forums. Full of know it alls
 
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The proof is there and your arrogance saying I’m talking nonsense is there too.

Maybe rethink your attitude. Typical of forums. Full of know it alls

That's a little bit harsh from someone with 20 posts on this forum. You obviously don't know who you are talking with.
 
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That's a little bit harsh from someone with 20 posts on this forum. You obviously don't know who you are talking with.

Maybe you are the person who doesn’t know who you are talking with !

what a thing to say ‍♂️

Get me out of here
 
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Maybe you are the person who doesn’t know who you are talking with !

what a thing to say ‍♂️

Get me out of here

I am not 17 years old anymore, my keyboard warrior days are over.

Have a great day.
 
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Maybe you are the person who doesn’t know who you are talking with !

what a thing to say ‍♂️

Get me out of here