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·Someone needs a little time out after their tantrum, it seems.
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Why oh why oh why ♂️
If you read the posts with an open mind you would see the disagreement was based on Archie saying I’m speaking nonsense to say they don’t have to change the hands.
Archie said they take the hands off at an early part of the process and new hands are added near the end of the process.
What you are highlighting is that changing the hands are included in the full service fee. That is correct but as I’ve proved and as the customer relations rep had stated, it’s not done every time.
ONLY WHEN DEEMED NECESSARY.
WHY DONT YOU STOP WASTING TIME AND READ THE THING FIRST PROPERLY.
Clearly many members on omega forum is in complete admiration of anyone who says they are a trained omega repairer. To a point that they can’t see reality as they just want to defend their hero!
Guy’s please stop posting your incorrect statements. I’m OCD so can’t help replying to point out the reality of it all. To defend my accurate and originally kind approach.
Get your facts right based on the context of this discussion.
Frankly if you did shit at school I’d suggest you keep out of it. Needs more depth
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Romanrye
·Time for me to unfollow as I can’t seem to delete the thread.
This forum has too many fan boys
This forum has too many fan boys
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You really should get your facts right if the thread already has issues.
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··Steve @ ΩFSometimes it is nice to able to fulfill someone’s wish.
You guys have a nice day and weekend.
You guys have a nice day and weekend.
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·I have read in information from omega the PO's hands in gen 2&3 are in fact gold to include the markers and omega logo. All other "diver" current watches, 300m included are rhodium plated. ( more expensive than gold) all 2 tone are plated and solid gold models are gold hands. Hands are replaced if found defective in some way or damaged during service or fail to be secure enough fit on the staffs. Diver models are also inspected for lume quality and replaced accordingly.
This is hard to find, but again I have seen it. My AD has visited Omega several times and also has verified this. Futher more, in a watch service presentation, a omega watch technician demonstrating the disassembly and service of a 8900 also share this information during a Omega event.
You can also email omega customer service and obtain information. They state that they use the most optimal materials for the intended use for each model. Just as they decide not to use gold hands on the professional Speedmaster moon models because it would fail the heat test by NASA from druping as Rolex's entry did.
This is hard to find, but again I have seen it. My AD has visited Omega several times and also has verified this. Futher more, in a watch service presentation, a omega watch technician demonstrating the disassembly and service of a 8900 also share this information during a Omega event.
You can also email omega customer service and obtain information. They state that they use the most optimal materials for the intended use for each model. Just as they decide not to use gold hands on the professional Speedmaster moon models because it would fail the heat test by NASA from druping as Rolex's entry did.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerS smpformeI have read in information from omega the PO's hands in gen 2&3 are in fact gold to include the markers and omega logo.
Please let me know the PIC number (reference number) of the watches you were told have solid gold hands. I can look these up on the Omega Extranet and see what the materials are.
Thanks.
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·Please let me know the PIC number (reference number) of the watches you were told have solid gold hands. I can look these up on the Omega Extranet and see what the materials are.
Thanks.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...🍿
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerS smpforme232.32.42.21.01.003 should be one, 21530442101001 should be another. Also 21563465101001 for example. This was around 2017/18? Please post what you find out. Like I stated, I have read this once, the rest is what I was told. If it list the material in the Omega IPL'S description as gold, that would be as official as it gets. If not. At least we will know for sure....hopefully.
For the 23232422101003:
All hands -
MATERIAL : RHODANIZED MET LUM
For 21530442101001:
All hands - MATERIAL : RHODANIZED MET LUM
So brass (CuZn28) with rhodium plating as expected for the non-precious metal watches.
For the 21563465101001:
Seconds recorder hand - MATERIAL TYPE : CuZn28 - plated with Sedna gold colour
All other hands - MATERIAL TYPE : AU750-NY+ SLN - 18k gold
The THIRD watch is a gold watch, which really wasn't the question being asked, as the initial question was regarding stainless steel cased watches. I suspect the chronograph seconds recording hand is not made of gold due to weight issues.
Just a note on pricing. For the hour and minute hands (which are sold as a set for all Omega watches) the cost of the 18k gold hands is more than 4 times the cost of the rhodium plated hands. So it's pretty easy to tell what the hand material is, just by looking at the price.
I've bought hundreds of hand sets from Omega, and the only hands that were gold that I have ever come across, were for gold cased watches. No stainless steel watch I've ever looked at hands for, had gold hands.
Cheers, Al
Edit - fixed error at bold...
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·For the 23232422101003:
All hands -
MATERIAL : RHODANIZED MET LUM
For 21530442101001:
All hands - MATERIAL : RHODANIZED MET LUM
So brass (CuZn28) with rhodium plating as expected for the non-precious metal watches.
For the 21563465101001:
Seconds recorder hand - MATERIAL TYPE : CuZn28 - plated with Sedna gold colour
All other hands - MATERIAL TYPE : AU750-NY+ SLN - 18k gold
The second watch is a gold watch, which really wasn't the question being asked, as the initial question was regarding stainless steel cased watches. I suspect the chronograph seconds recording hand is not made of gold due to weight issues.
Just a note on pricing. For the hour and minute hands (which are sold as a set for all Omega watches) the cost of the 18k gold hands is more than 4 times the cost of the rhodium plated hands. So it's pretty easy to tell what the hand material is, just by looking at the price.
I've bought hundreds of hand sets from Omega, and the only hands that were gold that I have ever come across, were for gold cased watches. No stainless steel watch I've ever looked at hands for, had gold hands.
Cheers, Al
Thank you for looking into this. VERY interesting information. I am going to try and find the literature that I read this in. I may still have it somewhere.
Funny, I just purchased a 43.5mm PO in black yesterday. I was told they were white gold when I bought it by the SA. Hands, markers and brand logo.
Hmmm, not good.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerS smpformeThank you for looking into this. VERY interesting information. I am going to try and find the literature that I read this in. I may still have it somewhere.
Funny, I just purchased a 43.5mm PO in black yesterday. I was told they were white gold when I bought it by the SA. Hands, markers and brand logo.
Hmmm, not good.
What is the ref. number?
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smpforme
·215.30.44.21.01.001. Is the reference. I wonder if the applied markers and logo on the dial are? Now I'm questioning there statements.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerS smpforme215.30.44.21.01.001. Is the reference. I wonder if the applied markers and logo on the dial are? Now I'm questioning there statements.
Oh, well that's one from above, so we already know the hands aren't gold.
Dials are a little more difficult to find details on with regards to the markers. The descriptions don't tell you about the materials like the hands do. But the part number can give you some clues - 064QMZ004657 is the dial.
The material code in that part number is QMZ. If I look at Omega's material codification work instruction (WI61) it doesn't have a "QMZ", but it has a QM, and a QZ, so a little interpretation is required.
QM - Dial, metal plated + enamel
QZ - Metal hand rhodium-plated
I would say there's little evidence supporting that anything on this watch is gold.
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