Phillips auction Speedmaster - a 3.000.000-fake?

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That is the single funniest thing I have ever read on this forum, and that's saying something! 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ

I write from Germany!

All other is USA or?

What is so funny for milions?

This need monney complain...
 
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I do not sell fake watches with documents for 120 Swiss Francs

Anyone who wants to write to me about a Class Action is free to do so
 
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For 120 CHF I can provide you with an Extract proving you are Lord Crucible of Outrageous Fraud II
Deal!
Now bow down to me peasants!
 
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I do not sell fake watches with documents for 120 Swiss Francs

Anyone who wants to write to me about a Class Action is free to do so
Once again, the documents never had anything to do with whether the watch was real or not, that was something dealers did to try to plump up prices and fools fell for. We have been warning people that extracts were never to be used for verification since near the beginning of this site, here's a thread discussing it a decade ago. https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-extract-can-it-be-trusted.15676/
 
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When you have a watch with a special dial that in the past were detailed on the extract and not detailed on your extract - it implicitly implies it's not authentic.
The problem is, that "in the past" people were able to add their own comments to extracts - IMO this is when Omega made the biggest mistake. It allowed people to add details about special dials or special hands that simply were not present in the archive, whether those special parts were "authentic" or not.

It's all pretty simple - if it's not listed in the archives, it shouldn't be on the extract. I've heard conflicting reports over the years if details about dials and hands were even contained in the archives or not.
 
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Extracts imo were always of limited value.

Also class actions not really a thing in the EU. Some jurisdictions have recently adopted the concept.

But pretty sure CH is not one (yes outside of EU)

https://swissholdings.ch/en/class-a...ommittee of,Switzerland with a clear majority.

Aside from that, there does seem to be significant entitled outrage very evident here. Which is comical, so comical gotta be trolling, no??
I鈥檇 rather we stay away from trolling or memes in this thread as there鈥檚 valuable information in it that shouldn鈥檛 be buried under flotsam.
 
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Had to look that one up 馃槈

FYI often coupled with jetsam...
 
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If your extract was made in 2021, then it would have come with this disclaimer on it:



It specifically says this is no guarantee of authenticity. As noted some dealers tricked the gullible into thinking it was something more than it is, but that's not really Omega's fault. They make it quite clear right there on your extract...
Regarding the document, the watch costs over 4 million

What does everything else mean? There are many questions?

This real news Look Internet

Omega Pay 4 Milione for Frankenstein Watch!
 
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Regarding the document, the watch costs over 4 million

What does everything else mean? There are many questions?

This real news Look Internet

Omega Pay 4 Milione for Frankenstein Watch!
Yes, we all know what happened - it might be news to you but it isn't for the rest of us here.

People used their positions to illegally enrich themselves - sadly it happens all the time. Hopefully the parties that committed the fraud will be held responsible.

The outrage party is all over - you missed it, so no point in trying to get it started all over again.
 
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I have one.....so you should all bow and refer to me as your lordship!......Don't bother!
I got it to annoy my brother who is a snob who is always sucking up to any Sir this, Dame that or any other titled twat!
 
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The problem is, that "in the past" people were able to add their own comments to extracts - IMO this is when Omega made the biggest mistake. It allowed people to add details about special dials or special hands that simply were not present in the archive, whether those special parts were "authentic" or not.

It's all pretty simple - if it's not listed in the archives, it shouldn't be on the extract. I've heard conflicting reports over the years if details about dials and hands were even contained in the archives or not.
My problem is related to a historic watch, submitting such a watch to a "museum" and receiving a dry extract with no info and no research is a sucker punch. But after this events it was at least evident why there was no interest as he was busy making fake serial bridges

I think extracts from Petros's time should be re-issued if the owner wants it, it would solve the problem

I do hope they are going the Tissot route though, free extracts and free love
 
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I do not sell fake watches with documents for 120 Swiss Francs

Anyone who wants to write to me about a Class Action is free to do

Writing from Germany ... Oh Dear . Troll and Time Waster ... Too much time for BS on your Hands.
 
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My problem is related to a historic watch, submitting such a watch to a "museum" and receiving a dry extract with no info and no research is a sucker punch. But after this events it was at least evident why there was no interest as he was busy making fake serial bridges

I think extracts from Petros's time should be re-issued if the owner wants it, it would solve the problem

I do hope they are going the Tissot route though, free extracts and free love
So you are suggesting that he was holding back details on "special dials" intentionally? Do you know or have a theory why this would be the case?

I assume from your other post you have a watch that once had an extract with a special dial listed, and a more recent extract was issued that didn't mention the dial. Is that correct? If so, when that first extract was issued, was is during the time when comments could be added by the watch owner? How do you know that if a new extract was issued, that it would mention the special dial?

Have you considered that the information about the special dial is simply not documented by Omega, and the second extract was the correct one?
 
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So you are suggesting that he was holding back details on "special dials" intentionally? Do you know or have a theory why this would be the case?

I assume from your other post you have a watch that once had an extract with a special dial listed, and a more recent extract was issued that didn't mention the dial. Is that correct? If so, when that first extract was issued, was is during the time when comments could be added by the watch owner? How do you know that if a new extract was issued, that it would mention the special dial?

Have you considered that the information about the special dial is simply not documented by Omega, and the second extract was the correct one?
Here's an example

Old:


Petros:


Second extract is like the museum is implying it's a fake signature, the "Delivered to" however makes it obvious it can't be a fake signature.

My issue is with another extract, this time another leader signature that has no other example on Omega's - the extract dealer got didn't detail the signature either. I think potential buyers assumed it was fake, I shouldn't complain as I got it for 1/100 of what it would've been worth