Upcoming Dr. Crott Auction Speedmaster 2915-3

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sorry but this is just nonsense, the only thing you have to provide for the extract is the serial nr. of the movement. And Omega dont have the information in the archive if its a -1,-2 or -3 . I never see a new axtract with a -62, -67 or something like that on it.
 
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Sir,can't you relax, please, if you can mentioned in extract bracelet,you can also case number.
 
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Soooo... Did someone here buy that watch?

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Sir,can't you relax, please, if you can mentioned in extract bracelet,you can also case number.

ok, so show us a Moonwatch extract after 2010 with the case number.
 
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I think this discussion is rediculous. Omega once after the horror Omegamania auction admitted that until then their confirmations about watches were often based on informations they got from their customers. If somebody wrote them that there is this and that 321 cal. with a 15.xxx.xxx serial in his 2915 they wrote this in the extract. The truth however was, that for some of the early chronographs as the 2915's and the early 2998's they had nothing but records saying that this and that movmement number was delievered on this or that day to the retailer in this or that country.
The reason is, that those watches were not produced in Bienne at Omega but in Orient at Lemania and redords from there got lost over the decades. I had a communication with Omega a couple of years ago confirming me this fact. What they said also is, that for very few 2915's of this period they do indeed have more than this record information so maybe we talk about one of this rare and lucky examples here.
For the buyers of this watch here it is easy to find out. He can simply go to the web page of Omega and order another extract for the movement number saying it is sitting in a 2915 case. If they have in the papers that it was build in a 2915 this will be written in their extract (but always without -1 -2 -3) if not, there will be written "not applicable".

Concering the BASE 1000 bezel of this 2915-3 I do not agree with the theory, that there was a model solely for the 2915-3. To my researches there were two slightly different designs for this bezel probably due to different manufacturers in the Biel area as we see this with dials, hands, cases, and they were fitted to late 2915-3, 2998-1 and 2998-3.

Finally I want to repeat that not only the small leave hands are genuin for a 2915 but that this kind big hour hand we find here, is definitly belonging to a 2915-3 or a very early 2998-1 as this triangle lumnious hour hands got significantly shorter later on.
 
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Eyes is better in this project,garage products are made for personal use only.Three different parts style assembled in order to make money with push from existing of movement records for my taste is SCAM.
 
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didn't understand half of this conversation but seemed to read it regardless. Left more confused than when I arrived
 
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Eyes is always the best. But we always have to remember that we do not talk about Patek's here. Those chronos were workhorses and were genuinly assembled maybe not in garages in Orient but for sure not with this love for details that we had at Patek or that we have today. There were batches of parts existing at the outsourced partner Lemania, coming from third parties in villages around the lake of Bienne and there were decissions of the Omega prodcution manager to launch a new reference or sub-reference and the Lemania people fitted things together. How can we expect that among sub references things like bezels and hands were separated strictly?

Here is an example maybe not proofing but supporting my theory. Look at this Omega catalogue from 1964. On the very right side we see an Omega Speedmaster stated as 105.003 which is the correct model for that period. Also we see the correct main and sub hands. However the dial is from a 2998-1 or -2 as is the bezel 😲. How can we expect that in the outsourced production things were strictly separated when they even did not in their advertisements?

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didn't understand half of this conversation but seemed to read it regardless. Left more confused than when I arrived
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I know we have non English speakers here.

My guess is that " Garage " is popping up as a translation for a foreign language term for what might be in English a " Horological Chop-Shop"

Answers on a post card....
 
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Eyes is better in this project,garage products are made for personal use only.Three different parts style assembled in order to make money with push from existing of movement records for my taste is SCAM.

Hi

You have a very similar posting style to member ' bravojonybravo ' :

https://omegaforums.net/threads/2915-on-analog-shift.47355/page-3#post-572217

https://omegaforums.net/threads/2915-on-analog-shift.47355/page-3#post-564720

Are you trying to drive the price of other 2915's down to buy or have an example of a 2915 to sell....

Best - Neil
 
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Eyes is better in this project,garage products are made for personal use only.Three different parts style assembled in order to make money with push from existing of movement records for my taste is SCAM.

In agreement with @Spacefruit, I think what our international member is suggesting, is that this a put together made from several watches.

And that if you were to do this to keep for yourself, that's no big deal - however, if you did it to defraud a buyer, that's a different matter.