Opinion on a Omega 30T2 military watch

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Hello everyone,

I am a young watch enthusiast.

I have been collecting vintage watches as my Hobby.

I love it as I feel like a humanoid collecting curios that measure the advancement of time.

Now, coming to the point. I got a watch from my friend. He needs to check if this is a frankenwatch or the genuine model.

I feel it is a frankenwatch but would like your expert opinion.

Would appreciate any feedback.

Thank you

 
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Fantasy dial, and I've never seen a Omega case designed like this.
 
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And military is really the most commonly misused word in vintage watches
 
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Fantasy dial, and I've never seen a Omega case designed like this.
Thank you for the comment. I have scourged online for how it would look and everything points to the fact that the dial is fake. However, no one confirms it. I believe the movement is original though not sure.
 
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And military is really the most commonly misused word in vintage watches
Thank you for the commment and yes indeed.
 
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I believe the movement is original though not sure.
The movement is original, but not a 30T2. Probably a 23.4SC.
The 23.4SC was the first Omega caliber with centre seconds and was released in 1936. The serial nmber of the movement dates to about 1945/1946.

Caseback reference 2176-1 indicates that this was at one time, an Omega "Medicus".

As stated above, the dial has been horrendously re-finished

And what's going on with this case, what is behind it?

 
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The movement is original, but not a 30T2. Probably a 23.4SC.
The 23.4SC was the first Omega caliber with centre seconds and was released in 1936. The serial nmber of the movement dates to about 1945/1946.

Caseback reference 2176-1 indicates that this was at one time, an Omega "Medicus".

As stated above, the dial has been horrendously re-finished

And what's going on with this case, what is behind it?

Thank you so much for you valuable reply. As you said, the watch has been tampered with a lot especially the casing and the dial.

Is there a way I can slavage the watch by getting a dial and the case ?

I do apologise if I am asking the wrong questions as I am new to the world of Vintage watches.

My idea is to get parts for the watch ( case and dial) and then get them together.

I don't know if that is even possible but as a boy from a small village, having an actual Omega watch can be a dream come true.

I appreciate your reply. Thank you.
 
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Budget $2000+ USD and 5-10 years of your time.

Good luck
Just when I thought I got a break in life. God does test me a lot nowadays.

Thank you and I shall stare into the Omega Abyss till I go insane or get it right.

Hopefully it's the latter.
 
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Even if you could get it right, the time and effort, not to mention the cost to obtain a period correct dial and hands make this a fool's errand.
Many of the required parts are "unobtanium".

Some of us have made similar blunders with vintage Omegas, so my advice is to wear the watch as is, and everytime you look at the time, your brain will say to you "Don't do that again".
 
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Basically a good dial is the hardest thing to find. They very rarely come us as spare parts, so when people have a case/movement and want to find a dial to match, it’s almost always a bad idea as you’re usually talking years worth of searching to find one. When one does come up you’re often one of many people trying to buy it, so a good dial sells quick.

It’s almost always better to just sell a watch with a shitty dial and try and find a good, complete watch. Much more time and cost effective unless you already have contacts in the trade or collector circles.
 
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Mate I feel for you. I got this cal 26.5t3 back in the day with the hopes of restoration. Finding a great dial, new balance etc. what an uphill battle it is.

I found a balance complete which I needed to grab a whole movement to harvest it from. The dial on that one was smaller so no good. I thought I got all my parts in one bundle.

So now I have made the most of this crappy dial and am waiting in the line with the rest of you for a dial that may pop up one day…….. maybe.

 
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Even if you could get it right, the time and effort, not to mention the cost to obtain a period correct dial and hands make this a fool's errand.
Many of the required parts are "unobtanium".

Some of us have made similar blunders with vintage Omegas, so my advice is to wear the watch as is, and everytime you look at the time, your brain will say to you "Don't do that again".
Yes sir. Thank you for the advise. I have learned my lesson from here.
 
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Basically a good dial is the hardest thing to find. They very rarely come us as spare parts, so when people have a case/movement and want to find a dial to match, it’s almost always a bad idea as you’re usually talking years worth of searching to find one. When one does come up you’re often one of many people trying to buy it, so a good dial sells quick.

It’s almost always better to just sell a watch with a shitty dial and try and find a good, complete watch. Much more time and cost effective unless you already have contacts in the trade or collector circles.
This makes sense. I don't have contacts. I started the journey of vintage watch collection sometime back. I believe I would sell it if possible after studying am Omega dial for my education. I don't know if people would buy it but I will check if it's possible. Thank you for the reply
 
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Mate I feel for you. I got this cal 26.5t3 back in the day with the hopes of restoration. Finding a great dial, new balance etc. what an uphill battle it is.

I found a balance complete which I needed to grab a whole movement to harvest it from. The dial on that one was smaller so no good. I thought I got all my parts in one bundle.

So now I have made the most of this crappy dial and am waiting in the line with the rest of you for a dial that may pop up one day…….. maybe.

My brother you atleast have a decent looking dial you can pass of for te time being. My dial looks like the kind of watches you get for a Mcdonalds Happy Meal.

We get stung by the fact that " What if you could" in terms of restoration. I hope you do find one though. I will pray that you do. Thank you for replying.
 
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Unfortunately with vintage watches of a more desirable nature there are a prefusion of bad redials and even more half decent ones which makes the lessons learned with newbie taxes an ongoing lesson that is extremely difficult to negotiate and that's why this forum is absolute gold in helping you make correct buying decisions.
 
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after studying am Omega dial for my education.
For your education, this is an excellent place to start.

 
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Unfortunately with vintage watches of a more desirable nature there are a prefusion of bad redials and even more half decent ones which makes the lessons learned with newbie taxes an ongoing lesson that is extremely difficult to negotiate and that's why this forum is absolute gold in helping you make correct buying decisions.
This forum has helped me so much in my journey. It has engineered the way I approach watches abd how to go about buying one.

Every single reply is a good nugget and I eagerly await a reply hoping to learn more.
 
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For your education, this is an excellent place to start.

Thank you sir. I will go through this
 
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Finally got around to taking this photo.
might as well post it here as anywhere. (should go in the addiction thread.)

I got the PC balance bridge. Do not know if it will work since it has shock jewel, and the non PC plate has no shock protection. I grabbed the bridge within an hour of it being listed. If nothing else it makes the movement look more complete.

Have not really looked much at the dial. It looks passable.

Still no midcase. So this is really an art project. Do enjoy looking at it. I really like these movements. I think there is another listed for about the same in a more complete state. So I could have waited. I do not think that has sold yet.

I think this is a FOMO watch as there have been a number of threads like this. So I jumped on it when I could. I have a case for a 26.5 T3, which one is listed at twice the price. Yet I went for this one as the cheaper option.

Should know better after 35 years. I did go cold turkey for 18 of them while collecting pipe organs.

So I can say no -- at least temporally or so I keep telling myself.