Omega Seamaster 300

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I hope all you Sea Master fans out there will be able to help me:-

I have recently inherited my late Fathers Seamaster 300.

My Dad was in the Merchant Navy all his working life an I remember him always wearing it up until about 20 years ago. I remember it being in not the best condition latterly and never thought to ask about it. It seemed to disappear.

Whilst sorting through his possessions, after his death, I came across it in the same used state as I remembered it latterly.

I then started doing some research and was somewhat surprised at what I found out.

I believe he had it from new and don't think he had any work done to it although I could be wrong.

I've attached some photos. You can see the serial No. is 165.114-63 with a movement No. 20308276.

There is also a number engraved on the lug at 10 o'clock RC10059P.

I took it to a watch dealer who said it had had new hands. On searching the internet I couldn't find the same watch with that hand and hour marker combination so I thought he must be right. Then I came across OMEGA PASSION and there it was an identical watch. Thanks to Stuart of OMEGA PASSION for his help. The dealer also failed to point out the significance of the original strap.

I have three questions if you can help me please?

1). What is the significance or the engraved numbers on the lug?

2). If it is as original as I think it is then it must be pretty rare. I can't find another photo of the same watch (apart from on Stuart's website.) Does any one have any comments please? Photos of your watch, if identical, would be great.

3). I would like to wear the watch, but I would like it to look more like as I remember it as a boy, so that means a sensitive restoration of the bezel and hopefully I have the right man lined up to do it. I guess some of you will be holding your hands up in horror at that but, if I don't have the bezel done I know I won't wear it, and it deserves to be worn. Best advice seems to be to wear it with a different strap and put the original in the safe!

Best Regards

Shane
 
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I hope all you Sea Master fans out there will be able to help me:-

I have recently inherited my late Fathers Seamaster 300.

My Dad was in the Merchant Navy all his working life an I remember him always wearing it up until about 20 years ago. I remember it being in not the best condition latterly and never thought to ask about it. It seemed to disappear.

Whilst sorting through his possessions, after his death, I came across it in the same used state as I remembered it latterly.

I then started doing some research and was somewhat surprised at what I found out.

I believe he had it from new and don't think he had any work done to it although I could be wrong.

I've attached some photos. You can see the serial No. is 165.114-63 with a movement No. 20308276.

There is also a number engraved on the lug at 10 o'clock RC10059P.

I took it to a watch dealer who said it had had new hands. On searching the internet I couldn't find the same watch with that hand and hour marker combination so I thought he must be right. Then I came across OMEGA PASSION and there it was an identical watch. Thanks to Stuart of OMEGA PASSION for his help. The dealer also failed to point out the significance of the original strap.

I have three questions if you can help me please?

1). What is the significance or the engraved numbers on the lug?

2). If it is as original as I think it is then it must be pretty rare. I can't find another photo of the same watch (apart from on Stuart's website.) Does any one have any comments please? Photos of your watch, if identical, would be great.

3). I would like to wear the watch, but I would like it to look more like as I remember it as a boy, so that means a sensitive restoration of the bezel and hopefully I have the right man lined up to do it. I guess some of you will be holding your hands up in horror at that but, if I don't have the bezel done I know I won't wear it, and it deserves to be worn. Best advice seems to be to wear it with a different strap and put the original in the safe!

Best Regards

Shane

Serial number dates it to around 1963.

The engraved numbers on the lug might be some sort of personal identification number that was relevant to your dad: in case the watch was stolen he could prove ownership.

Do you have the original bezel insert? If not, Omega reissued the 1957 Seamaster 300 a few years ago. If you have lost the bezel insert, I would investigate if the bezel from that 2017 1957 Seamaster 300 reissue might fit your watch, and if so, you could have a watchmaker just buy the reissue bezel insert parts and install it. Might be cheaper than trying to obtain an original bezel.

The baton hands are the correct style for your 1963 model. The lume on your baton hands and second hand is a different shade than the hour markers. Perhaps they were replaced or relumed at some point. Or perhaps they just aged differently. It's hard to say.

I would try to keep everything as original as possible and not polish anything so you maintain maximum value.

That looks like an original 19mm flat link Omega bracelet. If it is stretched out, you could have it repaired, or just put a new Forstner or Omega 19mm flat link bracelet on it and keep your original bracelet in storage. The Forstner 19mm flat link bracelet will be cheaper than a new OEM Omega bracelet.
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Transitional 165.014 with the earlier dial variant from the 2913/14755 references- nice watch!
 
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This is the 2017 1957 Seamaster 300 60th Anniversary reissue. If you no longer have the factory bezel insert, I would investigate if the bezel insert from this 2017 reissue fits your 1963 model. If so, perhaps you could have your watchmaker buy the Omega bezel insert ala carte from Omega.

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As noted, perhaps the dealer was suggesting that the hands had been relumed, which appears may be the case. Hands and dial can age somewhat differently, but that would be really extreme.

Who are you planning to have restore the bezel? There are one or two people who can do a good job of it, but you need to be careful.
 
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This is the 2017 1957 Seamaster 300 reissue. If you no longer have the factory bezel insert, I would investigate if the bezel insert from this 2017 reissue fits your 1963 model.


Is it possible to just go out and buy only the insert, without the bezel, for a SM300 re-edition? Will that even fit? And if it does will it be the correct fit and finish for a 165.014? Also there is a price consideration to be taken into account as I'm pretty sure an Aldo/other bezel insert will come in a hell of a lot cheaper than an OEM product (if that even exists!)
 
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Is it possible to just go out and buy only the insert, without the bezel, for a SM300 re-edition? Will that even fit? And if it does will it be the correct fit and finish for a 165.014? Also there is a price consideration to be taken into account as I'm pretty sure an Aldo/other bezel insert will come in a hell of a lot cheaper than an OEM product (if that even exists!)

Not sure if the 1957 reissue bezel insert will fit or pricing. That's why I suggested he have his watchmaker investigate as a potential OEM option and then compare it with pricing vs aftermarket bezels.
 
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Just to be clear, the OP watch bezel does not take an insert, and would not look right at all with an insert. It originally had a bake-lite style inlay embedded in the groove, most of which gradually break and flake out over time.
 
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Just to be clear, the OP watch bezel does not take an insert, and would not look right at all with an insert. It originally had a bake-lite style inlay embedded in the groove, most of which gradually break and flake out over time.

You're right. Doesn't the 2017 1957 300 60th reissue use an aluminum insert? Does any aftermarket entity make a faux bake-lite replacement part for this OP's watch?
 
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You're right. Doesn't the 2017 1957 300 60th reissue use an aluminum insert? Does any aftermarket entity make a faux bake-lite replacement part for this OP's watch?

Yes they both do, the bezel itself will be sent off and returned with the insert bonded in.
 
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This is the 2017 1957 Seamaster 300 60th Anniversary reissue. If you no longer have the factory bezel insert, I would investigate if the bezel insert from this 2017 reissue fits your 1963 model. If so, perhaps you could have your watchmaker buy the Omega bezel insert ala carte from Omega.


Bezel does not fit.
 
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It’s a lovely heirloom, and in nice condition given its working environment.
If you want to wear it have it serviced by a specialist (let us know where in the world you are and someone can recommend an experienced watchmaker,) have a new insert fitted to the bezel and leave everything else as it is. You could have the hand lume matched to the dial, but why not leave them alone, that’s how your Dad wore it after all.
 
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Another similar one, albeit a different variant re the hour markers. There are several SM 300s with these hands that have appeared on the board over the years so not sure why you have a concern about the hands. Enjoy it in any case.
 
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Nice watch! Very close to mine, and as people mentioned above, a transitional model with 14755 and 165014 (be aware, its not 165114 as you mention in your original post). Mine also has a reproduced bezel by mcgyver, who's been mentioned before.
 
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Some times the hands will match. Sometimes that won't. Dials are done in separate facility than the hands which could mean a slightly different mix in the luminous.

Also material against dial will age differently than the hands which is exposed on both sides

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Serial number dates it to around 1963.

The engraved numbers on the lug might be some sort of personal identification number that was relevant to your dad: in case the watch was stolen he could prove ownership.

Do you have the original bezel insert? If not, Omega reissued the 1957 Seamaster 300 a few years ago. If you have lost the bezel insert, I would investigate if the bezel from that 2017 1957 Seamaster 300 reissue might fit your watch, and if so, you could have a watchmaker just buy the reissue bezel insert parts and install it. Might be cheaper than trying to obtain an original bezel.

The baton hands are the correct style for your 1963 model. The lume on your baton hands and second hand is a different shade than the hour markers. Perhaps they were replaced or relumed at some point. Or perhaps they just aged differently. It's hard to say.

I would try to keep everything as original as possible and not polish anything so you maintain maximum value.

That looks like an original 19mm flat link Omega bracelet. If it is stretched out, you could have it repaired, or just put a new Forstner or Omega 19mm flat link bracelet on it and keep your original bracelet in storage. The Forstner 19mm flat link bracelet will be cheaper than a new OEM Omega bracelet.


Hi bigtriangle68,

Thanks for your reply.

I am guessing the insert disappeared a while ago. I have a few watches from my Dad and they are all battered. The Omega is the best one.

I am tempted to go down the restoration route with René Savelkoul, including the case, but not re-luming the face, just the hands to match the face, which I know will horrify you but my reasons are:- I will never sell it so value is not that important. When I was young my Dad wore it all the time and I remember it being in good condition and, I have a few nice watches and I try and keep them looking nice. It's what I like.

I must admit I am apprehensive at sending it to René, It would be reassuring to hear from some one who did the same.

Yes it is the original 7912 bracelet with the stretchy links one end and the No. 6 links at the other. i think I will put a leather strap on it and keep the original safe.
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I had a good experience with the person you mentioned. Personally I would not recommend discussing issues relating to circumventing taxes and duties on a public forum, especially while also posting someone's real first and last name. It seems risky and a bit discourteous.