No experts on Movado on OF?

Bille · Dec 19, 2019

Hi OF

I got this Movado Datron in a trade with another watch. I think it’s pretty cool with the panda dial - and grey subdials. I have tried to do some research, and I found out that the watch is from 1970. Supposingly the first real automatic chronograph, El Primero Cal 3019.

Can anybody say more about the watch, and the valuation of if?

Bille · Dec 20, 2019

Apparently the movement (El Primero Cal 3019), is the same movement that later on was used in Rolex Daytona.

But anybody who knows about the valuation and price on above Movado?

Thanks 😀

Donn Chambers · Dec 20, 2019

More importantly, the El Primero Cal 3019 was one of the (if not the) first automatic chronograph movements, so it’s a cool piece of history. If you haven’t already seen this Hodinkee article, give it a look. They go into the history and give some value at the end:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/just-because-the-movado-datron-hs360

Buck2466 · Dec 20, 2019

A quick look on Ebay has them between $3000 -$6000. Keep in mind those are asking prices and doesn't mean they will sell for that. I've always had a soft spot for Movado, since my Grandfather gave me his from the 40's when I was a teenager and i still have it almost 40 years later.

Dan S · Dec 20, 2019

You can find prices using the sold item search on eBay. In my experience, they sell for slightly less than an "equivalent" Zenith, so compare to Zenith EP examples with similar case shapes.

Dan S · Dec 20, 2019

Buck2466
A quick look on Ebay has them between $3000 -$6000. Keep in mind those are asking prices and doesn't mean they will sell for that. I've always had a soft spot for Movado, since my Grandfather gave me his from the 40's when I was a teenager and i still have it almost 40 years later.

As you suggested, they don't actually sell that high. I tend to think that $3k is the high end for one of these, maybe slightly higher if including original bracelet.

Bille · Dec 20, 2019

Donn Chambers
More importantly, the El Primero Cal 3019 was one of the (if not the) first automatic chronograph movements, so it’s a cool piece of history. If you haven’t already seen this Hodinkee article, give it a look. They go into the history and give some value at the end:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/just-because-the-movado-datron-hs360

Thank you for the link - I will use my Christmas vacation digging deeper into the Movado Universe

Bille · Dec 20, 2019

Buck2466
A quick look on Ebay has them between $3000 -$6000. Keep in mind those are asking prices and doesn't mean they will sell for that. I've always had a soft spot for Movado, since my Grandfather gave me his from the 40's when I was a teenager and i still have it almost 40 years later.

I have really not paid notice to Movado in the past, but seeing this on has really changed my vies on the brand. This one is a beauty with nice grey subdials and a nice case and bezel

Bille · Dec 20, 2019

Dan S
You can find prices using the sold item search on eBay. In my experience, they sell for slightly less than an "equivalent" Zenith, so compare to Zenith EP examples with similar case shapes.

I have been told that Movado is more popular in North America than Europe, and Zenith is the other way around - more popular in Europe than USA. I dont know if that’s true or not

Bille · Dec 20, 2019

Dan S
As you suggested, they don't actually sell that high. I tend to think that $3k is the high end for one of these, maybe slightly higher if including original bracelet.

I will try and look more into the prices. When you look at Chrono24 (I know you can not trust thoose prices), they are up to double the price - 6K

Walrus · Dec 20, 2019

Bille
I have been told that Movado is more popular in North America than Europe, and Zenith is the other way around - more popular in Europe than USA. I dont know if that’s true or not

It might be that movado is better known. They even do commercials here. It seems now movado focuses on quartz and that damn museum style but those vintage ones are beautiful.

Bille · Dec 20, 2019

Walrus
It might be that movado is better known. They even do commercials here. It seems now movado focuses on quartz and that damn museum style but those vintage ones are beautiful.

I totally agree - vintage is so much more interesting than all theese new, mass-produced watches

janice&fred · Dec 20, 2019

some of the 50's Movado chronographs are highly sought after and trade for big bucks.

CaptainWinsor · Dec 20, 2019

Bille
I have been told that Movado is more popular in North America than Europe, and Zenith is the other way around - more popular in Europe than USA. I dont know if that’s true or not

Zenith is really under appreciated here in the US and that’s fine with me.

Bille · Dec 28, 2019

CaptainWinsor
Zenith is really under appreciated here in the US and that’s fine with me.

I agree - and so is Movado in Europe

SpeedyPhill · Feb 20, 2020

Timely topic as MoonwatchUniverse, in cooperation with Omegaforums.net established that 46 years ago, US Marine Corps aviator LtCol Gerald Carr wore a personal Movado Datron chronograph aboard the 84 days 1 hour Skylab-4 mission between November 1973 and February 1974.
Photos etc in the February 2020 contributions at https://moonwatchuniverse.tumblr.com/archive

Or check these OmegaForums.net topics:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/hidden-gems-from-the-nasa-photo-archive.27812/page-31#post-1443291
and
https://omegaforums.net/threads/please-help-to-identify-the-wrist-watch-spaceflight.76337/
👍

SpeedyPhill · Feb 20, 2020

I'll also post a NASA photograph in this topic...
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wristpirate · Feb 20, 2020

SpeedyPhill
Timely topic as MoonwatchUniverse, in cooperation with Omegaforums.net established that 46 years ago, US Marine Corps aviator LtCol Gerald Carr wore a personal Movado Datron chronograph aboard the 84 days 1 hour Skylab-4 mission between November 1973 and February 1974.
Photos etc in the February 2020 contributions at https://moonwatchuniverse.tumblr.com/archive

Or check these OmegaForums.net topics:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/hidden-gems-from-the-nasa-photo-archive.27812/page-31#post-1443291
and
https://omegaforums.net/threads/please-help-to-identify-the-wrist-watch-spaceflight.76337/
👍

Exciting discovery!

Henceforth to be know as the Movado Carr!

georgeszaslavsky · Mar 12, 2020

Interesting pic of an astronaut with a Movado Datron

SpeedyPhill · Feb 12, 2021

Although the Movado Datron can be seen in several onboard Skylab-4 photos and splash-down & recovery footage, here's another written confirmation on Skylab-4 astronaut/commander Gerald Carr personal Movado Datron HS360 wristwatch !
Excerpt from book "Homesteading Space - The Skylab Story" written by David Hitt, Owen Garriott and Joe Kerwin. University of Nebraska Press, 2008, part of page 342 ... taking extra watches was a common thing among Skylab crews !!!
👍
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