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Calling Longines Experts! Opinions on this 30CH Ref 6075

  1. matthewG Oct 19, 2018

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    Here's a curious question. I acquired this watch quite a while ago- it's been at Longines getting serviced for several months now and I expect to have it back within about 6 or 8 weeks. I wanted the movement to get a complete overhaul and the case just cleaned up of all the grime and dirt. All numbers are correct, case and movement matches per the archive, case back and lug serial numbers are a match, the dial is correct and overall it's in very honest condition. The question I had was specifically about the hands, and in particular the minute hand and the chronograph minute counter hand. Both appear to be too large, the minute hands you can see extends beyond the borders of the outer track and the chrono subdial hand appears to just slightly as well. Interestingly, the first person I asked about this and sent pictures to was John Goldberger- his feeling was that the hands were in fact correct and original, Longines when I asked the question also gave me a similar affirmation. So, who am I to question a renowned expert like Goldberger and Longines historical department. Nevertheless it's a curious matter to me and I wonder what others on the forum think. Thanks!
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  2. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 19, 2018

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    I just checked the H/M hands chart ... I think you are ok. Chrono hand looks ok too. Subs: not sure about seconds hand but minute counter looks ok. Crown looks ok from pic.
     
  3. Seiji Oct 19, 2018

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    When you ask Longines, they check LEA. They have black and white photos of most of the watches created starting from about Mid 1930-1940. You can ask them for a scan of the watch.
     
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  4. matthewG Oct 20, 2018

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    Any other opinions out there folks?
     
  5. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 20, 2018

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    Is this watch missing a bezel? Sure looks like it is
     
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  6. matthewG Oct 20, 2018

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    A bezel,no but the crystal was removed for photos
     
  7. notaroaugelli Oct 27, 2018

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    In my opinion is too longer
     
  8. matthewG Oct 27, 2018

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    My thought too- but Longines and Goldberger both think it’s inexplicably original. So, who knows?!
     
  9. notaroaugelli Oct 27, 2018

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    Aesthetics is right. It makes no sense to produce a minutes hand longer than needed
     
  10. matthewG Oct 27, 2018

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    I agree, hence the confusion
     
  11. Seiji Oct 27, 2018

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    Longines knows, in the end, LEA is the final word. However, sometimes it is missing information or the historians haven't found cross references yet for some of the short hand codes. The code system is complicated.

    Also, if Bernard and Auro agree...well who will argue against them? Bernard's decision determines if you get a Certificate of Authentication or not.
     
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  12. notaroaugelli Oct 31, 2018

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    Until I will see these hands configuration on a catalog of the time, I remain of this opinion.
     
  13. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Oct 31, 2018

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    What is LEA?
     
  14. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Oct 31, 2018

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    It’s fhe Longines electronic archive.
     
  15. notaroaugelli Oct 31, 2018

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  16. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Oct 31, 2018

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  17. matthewG Oct 31, 2018

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    Hands appear to be either the alpha luminous or the pointex luminous- I never disputed the hands were correct to Longines, they just differ from other 6075's I have seen and again, they just appeared to be long for this dial
     
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  18. vujen Nov 6, 2018

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    They appear too long for me.
     
  19. matthewG Nov 6, 2018

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    Yes the question isn’t are they too long or not, but rather why would both Longines and Goldberger bth say they’re original and correct. I agree they’re too long, I just want to know why, and how it would have left the factory like that...
     
  20. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Nov 6, 2018

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    I know this is possibly sacrilege but you could have your watchmaker trim the minute hand if it bugs you that much.