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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaIt's for people who know they have an authentic watch, but would like to know date of production, place of delivery etc.
Especially useful for people looking for a "birth year" watch.
New (improved) process for Omega Extract of the Archives
It's for people who know they have an authentic watch, but would like to know date of production, place of delivery etc.
Especially useful for people looking for a "birth year" watch.
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eugeneandresson
·No. Anybody could have filled that in to suite the watch. But an extract works the other way around.
https://www.fratellowatches.com/omegas-extract-of-the-archives-how-it-works/
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x0x0
·No. Anybody could have filled that in to suite the watch. But an extract works the other way around.
https://www.fratellowatches.com/omegas-extract-of-the-archives-how-it-works/
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x0x0
·Read the link 😉
I understand the whole process, you mean that it ensure the details on the papers eh?
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paddymoran
·To me the value of the EOA is that Omega not simply confirms the production date of the watch and where it was distributed for sale but that they are attesting to the movement and case matching. When you have a 50-60 year old watch with an unknown history it’s reassuring to know that the movement hasn’t come from a different case/ model. It helps prove the watches originality.
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x0x0
·To me the value of the EOA is that Omega not simply confirms the production date of the watch and where it was distributed for sale but that they are attesting to the movement and case matching. When you have a 50-60 year old watch with an unknown history it’s reassuring to know that the movement hasn’t come from a different case/ model. It helps prove the watches originality.
Thanks for the explanation 😀
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Dan S
·To me the value of the EOA is that Omega not simply confirms the production date of the watch and where it was distributed for sale but that they are attesting to the movement and case matching. When you have a 50-60 year old watch with an unknown history it’s reassuring to know that the movement hasn’t come from a different case/ model. It helps prove the watches originality.
And in some cases, the EOA will confirm delivery to the military, or that the movement is correct for some other "special" version of a reference. However, this has received increased skepticism in recent years, because of numerous reports that Omega will sometimes (selectively) include information provided by the owner in addition to information strictly taken from the archives.
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paddymoran
·And in some cases, the EOA will confirm delivery to the military, or that the movement is correct for some other "special" version of a reference. However, this has received increased skepticism in recent years, because of numerous reports that Omega will sometimes (selectively) include information provided by the owner in addition to information strictly taken from the archives.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThat’s really interesting - so when I submit a request for an EOA for my Speedy Pro bought at the PX on a military base I’ll include this detail and an image of the original sales receipt!
Just FYI, I don’t think that is what was meant by military watches. Those are issued watches, rather than private purchases.
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paddymoran
·Just FYI, I don’t think that is what was meant by military watches. Those are issued watches, rather than private purchases.
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Neeb
·Just curious - do Omega movement numbers have any structure to them or are they just sequential numbers within each calendar year?
I recently got an extract from the archives for a 1967 Constellation. The movement number is 25216781, but on the extract the numbers are separated by dots (as 25.216.781). The watch was produced in November 1967, and it strikes me as unlikely that if the numbers were purely sequential they would only have got to 25.2 million odd by November that year, especially as they needed 26,000,000 - 27,999,999 for 1968.
I recently got an extract from the archives for a 1967 Constellation. The movement number is 25216781, but on the extract the numbers are separated by dots (as 25.216.781). The watch was produced in November 1967, and it strikes me as unlikely that if the numbers were purely sequential they would only have got to 25.2 million odd by November that year, especially as they needed 26,000,000 - 27,999,999 for 1968.
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SkunkPrince
·Some places use dots instead of commas as separators and commas instead of dots as decimal point. The numbers are roughly sequential but the watch may not have been sold and shipped right away.
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Neeb
·Some places use dots instead of commas as separators and commas instead of dots as decimal point. The numbers are roughly sequential but the watch may not have been sold and shipped right away.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorInteresting. So "production" is the date that the whole watch was assembled and/or shipped, while the movement may have been made much earlier in the year?
Watch companies are factories, and they have finished goods inventory of movements, to be matched to the cases at the appropriate time.
I find Omega's EoA, using the term "production", to be very ambiguous. It could apply to either the movement or finished watch. They don't tell you. That's why I don't think it's worth $150, unless for a very expensive vintage watch.
Longines is a bit better. They use the word "delivery", which can mean either the date Longines delivered a finished watch to a wholesaler, or if a National Production model, the date the raw movement was exported (usually to the US).
Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
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Neeb
·I find Omega's EoA, using the term "production", to be very ambiguous. It could apply to either the movement or finished watch. They don't tell you. That's why I don't think it's worth $150, unless for a very expensive vintage watch.
gatorcpa
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OneTwo
·To me the value of the EOA is that Omega not simply confirms the production date of the watch and where it was distributed for sale but that they are attesting to the movement and case matching. When you have a 50-60 year old watch with an unknown history it’s reassuring to know that the movement hasn’t come from a different case/ model. It helps prove the watches originality.
This! One hundred times over is for me the value of an EoA.
For example, I inherited two 1940s omegas when my great uncle passed. Both movement serial numbers started w/ 10M sequence. When I submitted them both to my local Omega Boutique for an EoA the 2414-2 case reference came back with a matching movement number and case so they were able to provide the EoA. For the second watch, a case ref. 2300 /3 , Caliber R17.8 (which the case number and movement combination matches what Omega states as originally supplied on the vintage watch database on Omega's website), I was informed that Omega was unable to provide an EoA as the case reference and movement serial of my watch did not match their records. Now this could have simply been because my uncle's watch was repaired at some point and a service case back was fitted to the watch. But still it was unfortunate news to receive.
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OneTwo
·Also, from over here in the States I am quite jealous of any of you who are able to simply submit the EoA request online. The process is so tedious and time consuming over here.
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