I'm still torn cause the dial is good so far.
What do you guys think of this watch? Should there be a 'T' after the 'Swiss Made'?
Yes, the “T” is correct. Watch is from around 1963.
Tritium on hands is gone. Case looks pretty beat up although movement looks decent. You will always need a watchmaker to inspect a vintage watch. You cannot tell from a picture what service has it has not been done.
I would not pay a lot for this watch as you are going to need new (re-lumed) hands and probably a service.
The second watch you posted is a totally different watch. It is from the mid-1970’s and was only sold in the Far East. It used to be very rare, but more and more have been spotted lately as dealers from that area have been translating listings to English and selling on eBay. It is smaller and thinner than the 1960’s versions. I own one of each.
What are asking prices?
gatorcpa
I the diameter of both are about the same.
The steel (and it only comes in steel) 1970’s version is not as big from lug tip to lug tip. It is also a couple of mm thinner. The “pie-pan” effect is much flatter on the dial and is accomplished by texture, rather than height. You really can’t see that in a photo. I think $1,200 is a bit high for that watch. I’d think more like high hundreds at this point.
The 1960’s dial is truly a 3D effect, where the dial is “folded” on each facet. The movements on these is considered one of the best automatics ever made.
Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
The steel (and it only comes in steel) 1970’s version is not as big from lug tip to lug tip. It is also a couple of mm thinner. The “pie-pan” effect is much flatter on the dial and is accomplished by texture, rather than height. You really can’t see that in a photo. I think $1,200 is a bit high for that watch. I’d think more like high hundreds at this point.
Dial is original but the case is -like other members have already pointed out- polished way too much. It has the “melted” look. See below my steel pie pan with very sharp dog leg case so you can see the difference, see the facets on the lugs:
