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KingCrouchy
·Just the price for parts, I wouldn't pay more than 500$.
Need help to confirm authenticity of Pie pan
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorGot it. In your opinion, what's a fair price for this watch?
Don’t buy this watch
I wouldn’t buy a watch with a case like that. ( as above $4-500 as the dial and movement are all you are buying it for as a new case is needed )
Keep looking for $1500 you will get a good watch.
Glad you asked first. ( only reason I liked your first post 😉 ) Set a avatar and stick around and learn some and wait patiently for something better. ( there is not much worse than that case believe me )
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ConElPueblo
·worth a premium...
That's an interesting subject for a discussion.
The "premium" here would, IMO, be the added value on top of the component parts - the movement, a dial + hands, crown and gold value of the case. The most subjective value here is the lovely dial which could be quite valuable for someone with a good case etc, looking to complete a project. For someone not actively seeking a dial, this watch would probably be of little interest.
@bradevan1, you asked what we would think would be a fair price - unless I was looking for those specific parts I would just not be interested. I would as @STANDY completely disregard it.
Any collector (well, the vast majority...) would rather want a more common or humble reference in better condition than this one. And $1500 buys a lot of vintage Omega, just not solid gold Constellations.
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cicindela
··Steve @ ΩFOne of the worst cases I have ever seen. Some idiot jeweler must have done that and really leaned into it
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorSorry folks, a nice pie-pan dial like that could be sold for $300 to $500 easily. And I’ve seen them go for more. The case probably has $500 to $700 in gold melt. Figure a running cal. 561 parts movement has to be worth $200 or so.
IMHO, you are looking at $1,000 minimum as a parts piece depending on where you are.
Not saying that I want to buy this example. I already have one in 14K.
gatorcpa
IMHO, you are looking at $1,000 minimum as a parts piece depending on where you are.
Not saying that I want to buy this example. I already have one in 14K.
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Amice
·Dial is original but the case is -like other members have already pointed out- polished way too much. It has the “melted” look. See below my steel pie pan with very sharp dog leg case so you can see the difference, see the facets on the lugs:
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bradevan1
·Thanks for your all advice guys! it's been really helpful!
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mozartman
·Parts watch means it has no extra value, than what the parts added together are worth.
Many people would think it looks great, & would be a great wearer. That is fine, I've seen a lot worse. I would wear it.
But it is not worth a premium, such as people would pay for an excellent example.
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bradevan1
·I'm still torn cause the dial is good so far.
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Noddyman
·Sorry folks, a nice pie-pan dial like that could be sold for $300 to $500 easily. And I’ve seen them go for more. The case probably has $500 to $700 in gold melt. Figure a running cal. 561 parts movement has to be worth $200 or so.
IMHO, you are looking at $1,000 minimum as a parts piece depending on where you are.
Not saying that I want to buy this example. I already have one in 14K.
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ConElPueblo
·Sorry folks, a nice pie-pan dial like that could be sold for $300 to $500 easily. And I’ve seen them go for more. The case probably has $500 to $700 in gold melt. Figure a running cal. 561 parts movement has to be worth $200 or so.
IMHO, you are looking at $1,000 minimum as a parts piece depending on where you are.
I agree with you as far as the value is high, but for a person with no connections in this hobby and without the skill to open the case, remove movement and dial without damaging anything, you are looking at a watchmaker's bill and then you have to find a proper sales venue, arrange packaging for dial and movement etc. For a collector who knows what he or she is doing, there is value, less so for a new collector.
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hoipolloi
·Dial alone can cost more than that. It is a cross hair dial with black onyx inserts (not lumed) with a small hour marker next to date window as a bonus.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersthat's a beautiful pristine watch. Can you share the definition of doglegs? maybe i misunderstood it
A dogleg being a quaint English term for something that is bent - usually with a sharp angle at the turning point.
“Like a dog’s hind leg”
This is the pet name (pardon the pun) for this style of Constellation case lug.
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··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorI agree with you as far as the value is high, but for a person with no connections in this hobby and without the skill to open the case, remove movement and dial without damaging anything, you are looking at a watchmaker's bill and then you have to find a proper sales venue, arrange packaging for dial and movement etc. For a collector who knows what he or she is doing, there is value, less so for a new collector.
Or
They can spend $1800 + for a nice case with shot dial and movement and arrange a watchmaker to transplant......etc, etc as you say Money pit to a new collector.
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorThey can spend $1800 + for a nice case with shot dial and movement and arrange a watchmaker to transplant......etc, etc as you say Money pit to a new collector.
In my experience, the conditions of the dial and movement for vintage watches tend to mirror the condition of the cases.
That’s why almost all of the pie-pan dials I see for sale on eBay are fakes, redials or in such poor condition as to be unusable.
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