My Speedy 3861 gains 4+ secs a day

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I got a new Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire which is gaining 4.5 + seconds per day. In the METAS certification test the result for my watch is 3.2. Does anybody know if this is normal or the possible cause? At the same time I also got a Seiko Samurai King that is in the +-1 seconds per day range for less than 1/10 the money which is very frustrating.
 
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Congrats, it sounds like you are within METAS standards. Timekeeping will vary a bit in different positions and conditions, so it all sounds fine to me. Welcome to OF, enjoy your watches, and save your frustration for things that matter. 👍
 
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+4.5 is fine, and within spec. There is accuracy and regulation, accuracy is how consistent it is, so a watch that is +4.5 every day is more accurate than a watch that is +1 one day and -1 another. Regulation is effectively the offset, and can be easily adjusted but to meet Omegas standards is cannot be negative and must be positive. This is because a watch that is fast can easily be corrected once every week or two by simply hacking it until it matches atomic time again, while a watch that is slow has to be set forward by a minute or more before then hacking, which is a slower and more frustrating process.
 
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I got a new Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire which is gaining 4.5 + seconds per day. In the METAS certification test the result for my watch is 3.2. Does anybody know if this is normal or the possible cause? At the same time I also got a Seiko Samurai King that is in the +-1 seconds per day range for less than 1/10 the money which is very frustrating.

It is in the standards, but I also hear you that it’s a brand new watch with Chronometre+ standards, and you were expecting a little more. Been there…

If it really bothers you, I would try to find a position that the watch loses time in, and just store it in that position overnight. Could be you end up at +/- 0 if you find the right position 👍
 
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Congrats, it sounds like you are within METAS standards. Timekeeping will vary a bit in different positions and conditions, so it all sounds fine to me. Welcome to OF, enjoy your watches, and save your frustration for things that matter. 👍
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Congrats, it sounds like you are within METAS standards. Timekeeping will vary a bit in different positions and conditions, so it all sounds fine to me. Welcome to OF, enjoy your watches, and save your frustration for things that matter. 👍
Wise words. Thanks.
 
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+4.5 is fine, and within spec. There is accuracy and regulation, accuracy is how consistent it is, so a watch that is +4.5 every day is more accurate than a watch that is +1 one day and -1 another. Regulation is effectively the offset, and can be easily adjusted but to meet Omegas standards is cannot be negative and must be positive. This is because a watch that is fast can easily be corrected once every week or two by simply hacking it until it matches atomic time again, while a watch that is slow has to be set forward by a minute or more before then hacking, which is a slower and more frustrating process.
Thanks for your advise.
 
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+4.5 is fine, and within spec. There is accuracy and regulation, accuracy is how consistent it is, so a watch that is +4.5 every day is more accurate than a watch that is +1 one day and -1 another. Regulation is effectively the offset, and can be easily adjusted but to meet Omegas standards is cannot be negative and must be positive. This is because a watch that is fast can easily be corrected once every week or two by simply hacking it until it matches atomic time again, while a watch that is slow has to be set forward by a minute or more before then hacking, which is a slower and more frustrating process.
Thanks, I have not seen it from that perspective.
 
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Thanks, I have not seen it from that perspective.
Welcome to the forum though mate and congrats on the new watch, any pics?
 
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Try keeping it in a different position overnight and you should be able to get it close to zero.
 
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Try keeping it in a different position overnight and you should be able to get it close to zero.
Yes, I've kept it horizontal for more than seven hours now and no gain yet. 😀. Thanks for the advice.
 
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As i read it sometima and it fits this topic: any iOS apps for a quick and dirts check of the accuracy?
Best wishes
 
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4 seconds every 86400 a day is pretty impressive 👍
 
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Sometimes if after a while, a movement settles in a bit. I have come to the belief that I prefer a new watch to be a little faster (+1 to +4 SPD) becuase as the movement settles in, in my experience, the movement usually slows down slightly when it breaks in a bit.
 
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Sometimes if after a while, a movement settles in a bit. I have come to the belief that I prefer a new watch to be a little faster (+1 to +4 SPD) becuase as the movement settles in, in my experience, the movement usually slows down slightly when it breaks in a bit.
Thanks for taking the time to reply. This is my first Omega. I think that will be the case.
 
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I bought a new Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire which is gaining 4.5 + seconds per day. In the METAS certification test the result for my watch is 3.2. Does anybody know if this is normal or the possible cause? At the same time I also got a Seiko Samurai King that is in the +-1 seconds per day range for less than 1/10 the money which is very frustrating.

I recently bought a Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire Sandwich. I looked at the METAS results (which I attach here). The average daily precision was measured at 3.6 seconds per day. So naturally I tried to measure it.

I synchronized the watch to internet "exact time" using the seconds hacking (wonderful) and then logged the time variance over three days, using the stopwatch to measure how many seconds it had gained. It seemed to be over 6 seconds per day. The METAS "golden ticket" is +5 seconds so I was a bit disappointed. I thought to myself that having spent the best part of seven thousand pounds it was typical that the watch that I bought was "out of whack", as they say.

I saw that in the USA, Omega offer a free "calibration" service so I emailed them to ask if this was available in the UK. The reply was that I should take it to an Omega Boutique (a.k.a "shop") and that they would examine and rectify any problem. I read more online and learned about the fact that you need to measure in different positions and store overnight in a particular way before getting a real "average" measurement.

So here we are now - before I bought the watch I was a normal person. Now I am panicking over a couple of seconds of my new watch and am googling and purchasing a timegrapher. To get some more accurate measurements and see if my 3861 is actually within METAS parameters.

I would be happy (after spending nearly £7000 for this watch) with say, +3.5 to 4 seconds - so let's see what happens. The time grapher arrives tomorrow. Watch this space (no pun intended).
 
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The time grapher arrives tomorrow
Is that time grapher actually capable to measure a co-axial movement?

Fully winding the watch daily at the same time and laying the watch away for 24 hours in every position gives me a result in 6 days time what the average gain/loss is.