My Speedy 3861 gains 4+ secs a day

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Is that time grapher actually capable to measure a co-axial movement?

Fully winding the watch daily at the same time and laying the watch away for 24 hours in every position gives me a result in 6 days time what the average gain/loss is.

Yes I believe that it is, except for the Balance Amplitude which makes sense I think when you compare Co-Axial to Swiss Lever.
The main measurement I need is the Daily Rate - because as I say, my measurements so far show +6 seconds which is disappointing and also doesn't come close (relatively) to my METAS certificate results.
 
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I recently bought a Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire Sandwich. I looked at the METAS results (which I attach here). The average daily precision was measured at 3.6 seconds per day. So naturally I tried to measure it.

I synchronized the watch to internet "exact time" using the seconds hacking (wonderful) and then logged the time variance over three days, using the stopwatch to measure how many seconds it had gained. It seemed to be over 6 seconds per day. The METAS "golden ticket" is +5 seconds so I was a bit disappointed. I thought to myself that having spent the best part of seven thousand pounds it was typical that the watch that I bought was "out of whack", as they say.

I saw that in the USA, Omega offer a free "calibration" service so I emailed them to ask if this was available in the UK. The reply was that I should take it to an Omega Boutique (a.k.a "shop") and that they would examine and rectify any problem. I read more online and learned about the fact that you need to measure in different positions and store overnight in a particular way before getting a real "average" measurement.

So here we are now - before I bought the watch I was a normal person. Now I am panicking over a couple of seconds of my new watch and am googling and purchasing a timegrapher. To get some more accurate measurements and see if my 3861 is actually within METAS parameters.

I would be happy (after spending nearly £7000 for this watch) with say, +3.5 to 4 seconds - so let's see what happens. The time grapher arrives tomorrow. Watch this space (no pun intended).

How accurate is your internet "exact time?"
 
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The source I used is the website time.is

The timegrapher arrived and I have taken measurements at various positions and I am happy to say that so far it seems to be well within METAS parameters and in fact very close to the results on my certificate.
 
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I got a new Speedmaster 3861 Sapphire which is gaining 4.5 + seconds per day. In the METAS certification test the result for my watch is 3.2. Does anybody know if this is normal or the possible cause? At the same time I also got a Seiko Samurai King that is in the +-1 seconds per day range for less than 1/10 the money which is very frustrating.
Totally unacceptable. You definitely have a flawed movement.

I’ll take it off your hands for a 50% haircut—and that’s only because I like helping people.
 
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I’ll take it off your hands for a 50% haircut
That's strange, who actually wants to walk around like that.👎
 
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That's strange, who actually wants to walk around like that.👎
Oops… I work in finance, and ‘haircut’ is business jargon for a discounted asset. That’s what I meant 😉
 
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Mine runs 4 seconds/day fast also, My Rolex, which isnt a master chronometer and isnt METAS certified runs 2 seconds/day fast.
 
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Mine runs 4 seconds/day fast also, My Rolex, which isnt a master chronometer and isnt METAS certified runs 2 seconds/day fast.
Omega aims for a 0 to +6 spd, whereas Rolex aims for a -2 to +2 spd.

I prefer the “Omega bias” simply because it’s easier to calibrate a faster watch than a slower one.
 
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Oops… I work in finance, and ‘haircut’ is business jargon for a discounted asset. That’s what I meant 😉

So it’s all your fault…..
 
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Mine runs 4 seconds/day fast also, My Rolex, which isnt a master chronometer and isnt METAS certified runs 2 seconds/day fast.

I think the METAS certification also encompasses a level of anti-magnetic resistance which is out of the reach of a Rolex movement👎
 
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Just picked up my Speedy 3861 this past week and I'm sitting at about +1 sec/day.