Hello, this forum. So sorry for my English isn't that good.

I cannot find much information about Omega Seamaster 2854 model.
(Also, no information in www.omegawatches.com)
I want this forum to share the knowledge (+ add more pics) or share opinion on my watch.

Another watch in my collection was Omega Seamaster automatic in jumbo case (36mm) with clean white dial.

Ref. 2854-1 SC, Serial number 14,827,xxx (production year was around 1955), Caliber 501 (19 Jewels)



When I search in this omegaforums, I can't find ref.2854 alone (as my watch).
I found 2854/2920 SC with both of them is the seamaster jumbo size with "chronometer officially certified".
(This link was attached below.)
https://omegaforums.net/threads/36-6-mm-seamaster-jumbo-chronometre.9352/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/no-risk-no-fun.8361/

In my opinion, I got legit watch with original dial, hands, crown and caseback too.
(However,the crystal was not original.)
This Caliber 501 in this model was correct too.
(Reference from this website and picture was attached below.)
http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/m..._&label=CALIBRES_MANUFACTURED_BY_OMEGA&flag=C




Anywhere, I can found another 2854 SC model was sold in my country with both of them were Seamaster jumbo size with/without "chronometer officially certified" and got cal.501 with 20 jewels.

The difference between those and mine were 19 Jewels vs 20 Jewels (which both 19 and 20 jewels can correct in cal.501 too).

My concern is about the difference in outer caseback design (both of them have seamaster word and small horse.)

Thank you for your kindness and response.
Teerapat

 

I add the pic of my jumbo seamaster with Chronometre Officially Certified that was discussed in this forums too.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/my-...with-chronometre-officially-certified.112122/

Best regards,
Teerapat

 

Dial of the non-chronometre looks too new, not consistent to the rest of the watch, especially while the logo has already been tarnished, so it's likely a redial. So is probably the chronometre as well. Both look like good redials, but redial nonetheless.

 

Looks like it was painted yesterday, far too clean to be original.
Very skilfully done though.

 

The text looks okay to me but this is definitely the first time I’ve seen that texture and I echo above concerns about the dial being cleaner than expected given condition of the rest of the watch.

Attractive watch, though.

 

It looks like it's printed on paper. I have never seen a dial like that. Also the print is not complete, parts are missing. It seems to be on bleached paper if it is paper.

 

Is that the new thing: printing new dials on paiper and attaching them to the dial. You could get all the fronts right very easy!

 

^ "Say it ain't so, Joe!"

 

It kind of looks like a GS snowflake dial ! I actually like it, but agree with others, not original.

 

Weird dial texture. Bright clean white, with poorly aligned and crooked applied markers and logo that show some oxidation. It just sets all my alarm bells ringing. I can't definitively say that it's not legit, but I would personally avoid it.

 

About the markers, I found some examples.

 

...That are much, much worse. The last one is a downright fake, I'd say.


Where are you located?

 

Thailand
Thanks,

 

Coffin markers are common, so this is not a situation where one needs to look at other examples. One needs to look closely at the alignment relative to the printed minute markers. Are the applied markers straight? Are they centered?

 

No, if you read my last post, you will see that I mentioned the alignment of applied marker relative to the printed minute markers. You're overthinking it. It's not a mathematical analysis, but the overall effect of multiple issues.

I would suggest just taking some time and reading other threads in the forum and looking at many watches online. These issues are frequently discussed, and with experience you will develop the ability to recognize problems.

 

Thanks

 

I just found another stainless steel omega seamaster with original dial in eBay that look identical with my watch. However , it used caliber 354.



https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VINTAGE-1950s-Omega-Seamaster-36mm-Jumbo-Steel-Mens-Automatic-Watch-354-2657/123823686736?hash=item1cd4778450:g:F4UAAOSwE~pdHVZ2

thanks,
Teerapat

 

At the risk of sounding like our dear departed Nerdbed/Omeguy...

When they reapplied the markers after the redial, they put the logo on slightly askew vs the text. Tarnished wonky markers with a clean paperlike texture dial with text irregularities? Sounds very like a good redial.