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Looking for advice and opinions about a Speedmaster 145.022 76 ST

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Happy New Year to all! I’m new to the forum and looking for advice. I have the opportunity to buy a Speedmaster 145022-76 ST. I’ve checked the Speedmaster 101 pages and it looks like this might be a steal at $3500. I know the watch has been in the seller's hands for the past 10 years, maybe longer. The crystal has the Omega logo, the dial has some damage, and the bezel looks correct. I don’t know if the pushers are original. The band looks to be correct for the watch as well. In fact, the band is so clean without scratches I’m wondering if it was replaced. Any ideas if the serial# is correct for the watch?

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Looks nice.

I will make a comment on the bracelet.
The 1171/1 is not correct for this watch.
Should be 1171. Endlinks 633 correct

with that serial should be late 70’s 1979 maybe...
 
Matth84
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Hi,

- Hands are replacement hands
- Dial not very clean
- Movementnumber 39xx.xxxx seems to be OK for a late 145.022-76
- Do you know if the watch is polished?

Matth
 
jaspers
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Welcome to the forum, @graydog! First of all: great that you (1) ask specific questions and (2) include hi-res pictures. Folks out here will be much better able to help you this way. I'm relatively inexperienced assessing watches for authenticity, so you may want to double check with some of the heavy hitters out here. My thoughts:

graydog graydog
the dial has some damage
Yes, and on weird places. Looks like a watchmaker had an accident during a previous service. Not the best sign, you should be able to get a 145.022-76 with a better looking dial.
graydog graydog
and the bezel looks correct
I don't think so. The "Tachymetre" text on the bezel should include a accent grave: tachymètre. See here.
graydog graydog
The band looks to be correct for the watch as well.
No sir. Should be a 1171-633, not a 1171/1-633
graydog graydog
I don’t know if the pushers are original.
Can't tell with these pictures
graydog graydog
Any ideas if the serial# is correct for the watch?
Serial could be correct, but no way to know for certain without an extract from the Omega archives.

So in sum, I think you could do better with when looking for a 145.022. But that's my humble opinion..
 
ndgal
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Nice watch. Bummer about the dial.
I would not consider it a "Steal" with the dial damage.
This is not a rare reference and there are plenty around. I would wait for a better one, even if it is $500 - $1,000 more...

The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
 
graydog
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Thanks for the info.
Matth84 Matth1984
Hi,

- Hands are replacement hands
- Dial not very clean
- Movementnumber 39xx.xxxx seems to be OK for a late 145.022-76
- Do you know if the watch is polished?

Matth
I don't think it was ever polished. I'm actually wearing it as I write this. Looking at the lugs there is a very sharp line between the brushed sides and the polished top of the lug.
 
Davidt
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The scratch would put me off.

Some of the advice above is incorrect. The hands could well be original and the bezel is also correct.
 
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jaspers jaspers
I don't think so. The "Tachymetre" text on the bezel should include a accent grave: tachymètre.
@jaspers: That is definitely NOT true for a 145.022-76, the text should be spelled like: TACHYMETRE without an accent grave on the bezel.

Matth
 
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Davidt Davidt
The hands could well be original and the bezel is also correct.
@Davidt: Have you also assessed the subdial hands?

Matth
 
graydog
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jaspers jaspers
Welcome to the forum, @graydog! First of all: great that you (1) ask specific questions and (2) include hi-res pictures. Folks out here will be much better able to help you this way. I'm relatively inexperienced assessing watches for authenticity, so you may want to double check with some of the heavy hitters out here. My thoughts:


Yes, and on weird places. Looks like a watchmaker had an accident during a previous service. Not the best sign, you should be able to get a 145.022-76 with a better looking dial.

I don't think so. The "Tachymetre" text on the bezel should include a accent grave: tachymètre. See here.

No sir. Should be a 1171-633, not a 1171/1-633

Can't tell with these pictures

Serial could be correct, but no way to know for certain without an extract from the Omega archives.

So in sum, I think you could do better with when looking for a 145.022. But that's my humble opinion..
 
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That is definitely NOT true for a 145.022-76, the text should be spelled like: TACHYMETRE without an accent grave on the bezel.
Ok, I stand corrected. I based my "I don't think so", which, I should stress, indicates some hesitation, on the pictures on speedmaster 101. As you can see here, the 145.022-76 has an accent grave. What I should have done is also cross-reference his bezel guide...
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graydog
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Thanks for the info. Ya know I looked over the pages of Speedmaster 101 so much it ended up a blur. I see the bezel issue now. With this info (and hopefully more to come) the seller might consider selling it or way less.
 
Matth84
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Yes it’s correct, no doubt about the bezel.

Matth
 
Denarius
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Well I like it, yes the dial is marked but its not easy to see, the hour indices have nice patina as do the hands which look original and case looks sharp, I would try and get it for $3k or less, get a movement service and just enjoy seeing it on my wrist.
 
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Denarius Denarius
Well I like it, yes the dial is marked but its not easy to see, the hour indices have nice patina as do the hands which look original and case looks sharp, I would try and get it for $3k or less, get a movement service and just enjoy seeing it on my wrist.

I agree. these are old watches and sometimes can be picked to death if gotten carried away. the dial and entire watch is quite pleasing looking in general and the bracelet is not counterfeit and probably replaces the older worn/broken one which is also to be expected sometimes with old watches. same goes for hand changes. if the price is right I would love wearing that watch. 😀
 
Dan S
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Unless we are talking about an incredibly rare watch, serious damage to a dial corresponds to a serious hit in value, so the asking price is not a bargain. Still if the OP doesn't mind the scratches, and isn't worried about having to sell the watch in the future, then it becomes an issue of price. I think he should just keep in mind that a dial like that is not desirable to collectors, so the seller will not be able to get a strong price for it.
 
Davidt
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@Davidt: Have you also assessed the subdial hands?

Matth

Yes. I'm struggling to see anything that suggests they're replaced.
 
Matth84
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Yes. I'm struggling to see anything that suggests they're replaced.
If I look at the point where the subdial hands are attached, I see differences here between the subdials. From my perspective, this could mean one or more of them are replaced.

Matth
 
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