Life is good but it’s not without issues

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Problem is, you only have yourself to blame. That's hard, but also true abut any situation in life. You allowed this situation to happen. You cannot blame anyone else, not even the BIL. Either act, or stop wingeing..
 
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No winging it this morning I threw him out.

This morning is the day that straw that broke camel’s back “me”

I walked into the kitchen to make a pot of coffee and was greeted with this mess.

This morning was my last straw. I woke up about an hour ago this is the mess in the kitchen sink my BIL left for my wife to clean up. This guy never ceases to amaze me. These and the other utensils in the sink are the mess he makes thought the night while my wife and I are sleeping.

I just finished talking with my wife and BIL. I told him get the F out this is my last straw. Sitting just to the right under the counter is a dish washer. The guy is to lazy to open the door of the dish washer and set the dishes in the machine.

He started to whine and said I have to go to work. I told him go. I mentioned you are welcome to stop by after work to pick up your things. Then I told him you have until Tuesday to get all of your stuff out of my home. Wednesday morning is garbage collection day in my neighborhood. I told him bright and early Wednesday morning. I will set you stuff at the curb and let the trash removal company deal with it.

I had to take a picture of the mess. No one in my family would believe someone would leave a mess like that. As they say a picture is worth a thousand words
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When he's sleeping, put a pillow over his head. Then tell the cops your wife did it.
Problem solved I threw him out this morning
 
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How much rent has the BIL been paying you? If zero, that was the start of the problem...

I agree with some people above who cap visits at 3 or so days. Sadly my wife is from a culture where month-long visits are the norm -- it is not visiting, it is freaking going to live there... I just don't get it, especially when travel o/ from is only a single 9 hour airplane flight -- it's not like it is a two month journey each way. The past 3 years it has been my wife taking our young son to visit her parents; the first time it was for over a month. I kept requesting a shortening of the visits, as I miss a lot of time watching my son grow up. They just left this past week for a visit; it is down to three weeks now. But it is a one-way street -- no way do I want her mom visiting and staying at my house that long. We have to entertain her, alter our daily routine, etc., and then she complains she feels like a prisoner (she doesn't speak much English and we live in the suburbs, so she mainly sits on a computer reading news sites all day).
Well I too am from a similar culture where relatives can come and stay as long as they want. And when they are leaving the hosts force them to stay for few more days. LMAO ! Currently my cousin brother is living with me and I havent even asked when is his return ticket ( or if he even has one 😉 ).
OTOH, my BIL (??) also is a a jackass. I lived in USA for 6 years and he was doing his masters from a college which was less than 2 hours drive from my house but I had conveyed to my wife in no uncertain words that he isnt welcome to our home and he never came 😀
 
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No winging it this morning I threw him out.
Then I told him you have until Tuesday to get all of your stuff out of my home.

Threw him out?

Uh, no you haven't. You threw him out but gave him until Tuesday(technically Wednesday am for trash day).

I told you he would be nice for while and then revert back to old habits.

I told you he was a professional moocher and wouldn't give up willingly.

I TOLD YOU.

Maybe its my age but human nature isn't such a mystery to me anymore.

What is a mystery is why people don't get it.

He will come up with some scam to stay. Many options here but my guess is he will work the pity angle on his sister(your wife).
 
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Threw him out?

Uh, no you haven't. You threw him out but gave him until Tuesday(technically Wednesday am for trash day).

I told you he would be nice for while and then revert back to old habits.

I told you he was a professional moocher and wouldn't give up willingly.

I TOLD YOU.

Maybe its my age but human nature isn't such a mystery to me anymore.

What is a mystery is why people don't get it.

He will come up with some scam to stay. Many options here but my guess is he will work the pity angle on his sister(your wife).

In the sink was

5 large dinner plates

2 bowels

3 cups

1 plastic container

1 microwave plate cover

1 ice cream scoop

Plus, a pile of silver ware

I actually did the dishes and cleaned up the mess. I told my wife do not bother with this mess. I wanted the full satisfaction of being able to tell my family members. I had to clean up this mess so I would be able to make a pot of coffee. I should print this picture and put it on the front of the refrigerator. Just so when my relatives visit, they will ask what’s this.

Trust me he will not darken my door step. He is only allowed to pick up his stuff. NO room and board period. I told him you are only welcome to pick up your stuff. That’s it enough is enough. He is beyond a professional moocher He takes that to another level. That really amazes me. He can work any angle he wants to it just is not going to work.
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You were right you hit the nail on the head 110%
 
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He can work any angle he wants to it just is not going to work.

All due respect, it worked for 8yrs, so you're not convincing him at all.

You haven't come nearly far enough to match his guile. You just haven't. He's better at it.

You know they say never get down in the mud with pigs? You just get muddy and they like it?

Here's the deal. You HAVE to get down in the mud. You have to get so muddy he thinks YOU look dirty. AND you have to show him you like it too.

That is the only way he'll get the message and not come back.

You're the beginner, he's the pro. And he knows it.


As an aside, you know why a lot of casinos don't care about card counters anymore?

Because you've got a lot of newbies who think they just have to learn a simple thing and then its easy street.

Fact is though, most card counters fυck it up. They either let their emotions get the better of them and abandon the effort, or literally don't follow the process to make it work. Either way they end up losing anyway.

Casinos found out that human nature gets the better of nearly everyone.

Your BIL is the Casino, and knows the house always wins. You're the newbie card counter with a plan to beat it, except it won't work. He knows you're going to lose until you get tough and go pro. Then he'll move on.
 
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All due respect, it worked for 8yrs, so you're not convincing him at all.

You haven't come nearly far enough to match his guile. You just haven't. He's better at it.

You know they say never get down in the mud with pigs? You just get muddy and they like it?

Here's the deal. You HAVE to get down in the mud. You have to get so muddy he thinks YOU look dirty. AND you have to show him you like it too.

That is the only way he'll get the message and not come back.

You're the beginner, he's the pro. And he knows it.


As an aside, you know why a lot of casinos don't care about card counters anymore?

Because you've got a lot of newbies who think they just have to learn a simple thing and then its easy street.

Fact is though, most card counters fυck it up. They either let their emotions get the better of them and abandon the effort, or literally don't follow the process to make it work. Either way they end up losing anyway.

Casinos found out that human nature gets the better of nearly everyone.

Your BIL is the Casino, and knows the house always wins. You're the newbie card counter with a plan to beat it, except it won't work. He knows you're going to lose until you get tough and go pro. Then he'll move on.

As of this morning he is gone period. NO more BS the time came he is no longer welcome in my home He is only allowed to pick up his stuff and move on.
 
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I'm on your side. I hope it works.

Just saying folks like this don't change their spots.

Be aware he may come back.

He may try to get into your wife's good graces and test the waters.

They say time heals all wounds. He knows this. He will take advantage of it.

If it all works out, that's great. Truly.

You deserve to be done with this shit.
 
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I'm on your side. I hope it works.

Just saying folks like this don't change their spots.

Be aware he may come back.

He may try to get into your wife's good graces and test the waters.

They say time heals all wounds. He knows this. He will take advantage of it.

If it all works out, that's great. Truly.

You deserve to be done with this shit.

Only reason I put up with this guy. When my Mom was going downhill from cancer. My wife was there for my Mom. I was not retired at the time. My wife took my Mom everywhere she needed to go, and spent all day with her. About the last year of my Moms life she came to live with my wife and I.

I figured my wife went though a lot with my Mom and was glad to do so. Since turnabout is fair play so I let my wife help her brother out. This morning I told my wife as far as I’m concerned, all debts are paid up in full. Enough with her brother enough is enough. My wife knows that jack ass will come back begging. I have seen that in action.

Her brother is flat out of luck good BYE and that is final in my book. A short time ago my wife asked me are you going to ask for his key to the house back. I replied NO I’m going to change the locks and security codes on the alarm system. I’m more than glad to pay for that.
 
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Fingers crossed for you but I don't think you've seen the last of the BIL. No matter how much he whines about needing "a few more days" stay firm.
 
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A short time ago my wife asked me are you going to ask for his key to the house back. I replied NO I’m going to change the locks and security codes on the alarm system.

Now your talking....just do it quick.👍
 
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The bar scene here is disturbing... you were just being friendly to another patron, and he threatened you? Your brother in law is in need of the boot. Your wife is an enabler..this is a health and safety issue now. He’s got to go.
 
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19 days

( if he’s stuff is still there he is still there )
 
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Forgive me for not reading all six pages, but I did read the first two and this last (6) one (as of right now).

So, to OP: Congrats! Glad the moocher is gone. Stick to your guns and don't let his whining or crying break you down. He can sleep in the park. It's plenty warm this time of year (unless you're in Australia, I guess).

... in-laws ... went through our bedrooms, personal files, file cabinets, checkbooks, everything...all while we were out of the house.

My FIL would do this at my wife's house (before we married and started cohabitating). He had to know what she was doing. Natch he does not have a key to our home.

I have to say, this kind of over use of acronyms worries me.

The correct term for that is OUOA.

Over Use of Acronyms.

I jest. I work in I/T, and everything is an acronym, or EiaA you may say.

But hey, seriously, it does take a while to learn all of the acronyms in use; some are universal (like BIL) and others can be situational (thinking OB, DSOM, SMP, etc.).
 
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In the sink was

2 bowels

That is taking things too far if you ask me. 😁
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That is taking things too far if you ask me. 😁
As far as I'm concerned the guy should be a mental patient. This BS with my wife's brother has gone way too far My wife thinks he acts like this because he is a diabetic and when his sugar gets out of control is when he acts up. I told her let him check into a hospital. I am done with this ass clown


Spell checking error should have been bowls😀
 
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19 days

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19 days

( if he’s stuff is still there he is still there )

One way or the other all his stuff will be gone in less than two days.
 
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Good luck. I'm optimistic that you'll be able to relax in your own home again very soon.
 
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The bar scene here is disturbing... you were just being friendly to another patron, and he threatened you? Your brother in law is in need of the boot. Your wife is an enabler..this is a health and safety issue now. He’s got to go.

The person with turrets syndrome and PTSD. Is actually a nice guy with plenty of issues. If I happen to sit next to him at the bar. I try to give him a wide berth. The guy may move around or it’s possible he could accidently knock over your drinks.

The guy likes the ladies he can come out with some funny stuff. If a couple walks into the pub and the woman is good looking. He will say to me she is pretty. I just agree with him. From time to time I’ll mess around with one of the bartenders.

Most of the women bartenders serve the guy but ignore his comments. One time I said to the guy how do you like this one. I pointed to the bartender that happened to be serving me my drink. She just looked at me and rolled her eyes.

He blurted out she has nice tits. I know the woman and her husband. Her husband was sitting a couple bar stools away from me. She knows from time to time I just jerk her chain. For some unknown reason to be my wife’s brother does not like this guy. When he tried to threaten me, I was shocked and told him don’t sing it bring it. I really regret not knocking him out of his seat at the table.