lets talk Explorer

Nobel Prize · Mar 19, 2016

Goes without saying, we've been discussing it on other threads as soon as it came out but I thought it deserved it's own place.

We all love the 1016. Classic, perfect, simple.

the introduction of the metal numbers and applied markers with the 14270 was embraced by all.

The 39mm 21470 not so much. Many accepted the size (I love it) but most agree the hands, particularly the minute hand, was too short.

Now we get the hands corrected AND the apples metal numerals give away to white luminova (or whatever they call it now) with deep blue glow.

I want to, want to, want to jump into it but I have to check those numerals in person as in photos they're just too white. I actually love the metal ones.

so far I have written nothing new...but here is the question. As I am thinking on flipping my 39mm one, or at least finding a way to change the hands to the new ones (and accepting the lume difference) it occurs to me that the 39mm with metal markers may actually gain some value say a decade ahead of now, when it is seen as what some genius will call "Transitional 21470 with short hands and white gold numerals.

Either way, what is the forum members perceived destiny for the E1?

abrod520 · Mar 19, 2016

I feel like at this point, this discussion would be best turned into a forum outing to the Rolex boutique to see it in person, then discussion over some drinks! 😉

Riviera Paradise · Mar 19, 2016

@Nobel Prize ; @abrod520

Well chaps, I think Rolex decided to keep the E1 distinct from the Tudor Ranger and new Tudor Black Bay Heritage 36mm as well as make it more sporty than the previous version...hence maintaining the squarish font, non-painted dial, investing in the blue lumed numerals and opting for a Matt dial.

For me this will make it a perfect companion for my Polar Explorer 2, more dressy than the E2, but still less blingy than a Sub and more versatile than my SM300MC which I only wear on the Omega Bond Nato, because i did not adapt to the SS bracelet. The +2/-2 and 5yr warranty are additional plus points in its favour.

And because as we know, every thread needs pictures, I will post a few shots of the new version, courtesy of Monochrome Watches:

PS. I could be wrong, but I think too many "transitional short hand 214270" were sold, based on the Crown´s volume output/yr to make it a true collectible. @Nobel Prize, I would certainly consider not flipping it...just get some new hands in a Rolex Service center, when you get it serviced. In 20 years time it will be unique and worth a fortune😀

jens0125 · Mar 19, 2016

Want a 60s explorer real bad... I love time only watches...but I need to get a railmaster first...life is just ful of tough decisions

Flingit1200s · Mar 19, 2016

Well I tend to agree that it will 20 years rather than 10 years for your watch to become a valuable "transitional" and it will only have maximum value with the original hands (learned this through observing the vintage collectors on here). I like the new model very much. The new 3, 6 & 9 "flow" together with the rest of the dial better and make the lume presentation quite striking. This would be one of the few Rolex models that I would consider owning in a couple of years. If I were in a different tax bracket, I think one of each generation would make a fantastic mini collection! As always, my opinion isn't worth the paper it is written on and Mrs Fling stands firm that I have an "unsophisticated" palette. 😉

Nobel Prize · Mar 19, 2016

Riviera Paradise
@Nobel Prize ; @abrod520

Well chaps, I think Rolex decided to keep the E1 distinct from the Tudor Ranger and new Tudor Black Bay Heritage 36mm as well as make it more sporty than the previous version...hence maintaining the squarish font, non-painted dial, investing in the blue lumed numerals and opting for a Matt dial.

For me this will make it a perfect companion for my Polar Explorer 2, more dressy than the E2, but still less blingy than a Sub and more versatile than my SM300MC which I only wear on the Omega Bond Nato, because i did not adapt to the SS bracelet. The +2/-2 and 5yr warranty are additional plus points in its favour.

And because as we know, every thread needs pictures, I will post a few shots of the new version, courtesy of Monochrome Watches:

PS. I could be wrong, but I think too many "transitional short hand 214270" were sold, based on the Crown´s volume output/yr to make it a true collectible. @Nobel Prize, I would certainly consider not flipping it...just get some new hands in a Rolex Service center, when you get it serviced. In 20 years time it will be unique and worth a fortune😀

Nah, If I switch the hands it will make it less valuable for sure. Specially 20 years from now.

One the rest I agree with you. When I see it in person if it resonates I'll buy it and then figure out what to do with the current one. If its so so I'll think about it ro get something else.

aprasert · Mar 19, 2016

I would get an original 14270 black out dial

Nobel Prize · Mar 19, 2016

A aprasert
I would get an original 14270 black out dial

I actually saw one in person and dos t like it at all. I actually thought it was a fake, much like it was posted on another thread about the new one. Mind you I didn't know how unique it was at the time so just judging on visuals without knowledge I didn't like it

Riviera Paradise · Mar 19, 2016

Nobel Prize
Nah, If I switch the hands it will make it less valuable for sure. Specially 20 years from now.

One the rest I agree with you. When I see it in person if it resonates I'll buy it and then figure out what to do with the current one. If its so so I'll think about it ro get something else.

the comment about swapping the hands making the watch more valuable over time was a joke gents...

VersusTime · Mar 20, 2016

For me 1016 ALL THE WAY 😀

Nobel Prize · Mar 20, 2016

VersusTime
For me 1016 ALL THE WAY 😀

For sure.

That said the more I see this arid the more I feel ill get it as soon as it gets out ( in May probably)

Not sure I'll get a fair price for my current one though.

al128 · Mar 20, 2016

Nobel Prize
the introduction of the metal numbers and applied markers with the 14270 was embraced by all.

hmmm... maybe we just didn't have the internet 2 going where all the whining and bitching got heard ... ::rimshot::

quite possible that people didnt like it but their reaction was not recorded and over time they adapted to the new changes ...

same's gonna happen now

al128 · Mar 20, 2016

for the record: the new EX1 is cool as fυck...

I still bite myself as 2 months ago I got offered the "desirable short handed" (I can already *feel* this phrase creeping up) ::facepalm1::

EX1... and for a very good price,too ...

It just took too long to pony up the moneys 😟

Nobel Prize · Mar 20, 2016

al128
for the record: the new EX1 is cool as fυck...

I still bite myself as 2 months ago I got offered the "desirable short handed" (I can already *feel* this phrase creeping up) EX1... and for a very good price,too ...

It just took too long to pony up the moneys 😟

Well, maybe you can get my desirable short handed transitional....🙄

jud · Mar 20, 2016

I had planned to purchase an Explorer 1 this fall. I am torn between the new and old 39mm versions. I feel that the gold 3,6,9 make it more versatile as a daily or one and only, while the lumed 3,6,9 make it more sporty. If there are still the older version BNIB going for a good deal around November of this year I will probably purchase the older model. If not I will be happy with the newer version.

Thanks for the pictures of the new version. It does not look as bad on the wrist as the lume shots.

al128 · Mar 20, 2016

i'd buy the old one, but would wait until the new ones hit the shops ... lots of people will be starting to offload ... just check the old Ex2 prices to get a feel for what to expect ...

cheers,
al

pcdubc · Mar 21, 2016

i would ask to swap for the long hands at RSC and request to keep the stubby hands. This should solve all of your problems should you want to resell. The only issue I can possibly think of is if these lume would patina, your hands and markers wouldn't match because of differential light exposure - then no one would believe/care if these were original hands. But it might not patina at all. Who knows?!?!

billyblue · Mar 21, 2016

pcdubc
i would ask to swap for the long hands at RSC and request to keep the stubby hands.

I'm afraid that's not possible, at least not in Germany...is this policy the same internationally?

pcdubc · Mar 21, 2016

billyblue
I'm afraid that's not possible, at least not in Germany...is this policy the same internationally?

Oh you may very well be right....that would be a bummer.

al128 · Mar 21, 2016

pcdubc
i would ask to swap for the long hands at RSC and request to keep the stubby hands. This should solve all of your problems should you want to resell. The only issue I can possibly think of is if these lume would patina, your hands and markers wouldn't match because of differential light exposure - then no one would believe/care if these were original hands. But it might not patina at all. Who knows?!?!

Not sure you get much of a patina going on 2016 Lume

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