Jomashop discounting the Apollo 11 50th Anniversary in Steel

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Yes you are correct -- that is exactly how we Americans like to buy things. We even have special meetings where we all gather round and try to convince manufacturers to raise their MSRPs so we can feel like we are getting better deals. And when we succeed we all give each other high-fives and blow air kisses.

I'm sure the "make America great again" crowd think just as you have described, keep telling them that they are getting a good deal and eventually they will believe it.
 
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Eh, I wrote and deleted several responses. Not worth it.
 
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My crystal ball says these will plummet further.
Plummet, what are you talking about? At least one (maybe) was offered by Jomashop at decent discount, now a 6 to 10 week wait which in New Yawk terms means "fuggedaboutit ", it ain't happening. There are no great deals on Chrono24, all above retail and the number is relatively small, <0.5% of the total. None available to walk-ins at OBs or ADs, it's way oversubscribed at retail price. It's sold out. Prices are not plummeting. Will it hold it's value, no one knows, but I see no reason for any hand wringing.

Whether you can get hangtags, outer cardboard box, coffin is a hit or miss affair and can vary by retailer and location. I bought a plain hesalite Speedmaster two years ago in the Geneva boutique and they were just going to throw the brown cardboard box away so I salvaged that, then when I got back to the hotel I discovered the hangtag was missing. Walked back to the boutique where the salesman reached into the trash can and retrieved it, so they aren't sacred in Switzerland. But other places will almost arm wrestle you for the hangtag saying it is 'verboten' to give it to you. Usually for watches in dealer stock the outer cardboard box and coffin are long gone. But it's an interesting game with these associated items that have no real value but which the collector likes to have for completeness..
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I'm sure the "make America great again" crowd think just as you have described, keep telling them that they are getting a good deal and eventually they will believe it.
But in reality Americans have the biggest selection, at the best price, for almost all consumer goods. It's a phenomenal marketplace when you live in the US and can access these markets without having to worry about customs and cross border shipping. Buy it and have it delivered, often the next day via FedEx or UPS, or go buy it directly at a big box store or at a specialized retailer, it's all available. The mismatch in the Apollo 11 USA price and some other world market prices seems deliberate based on what the US market will bear. That's the beauty of free market capitalism, its got nothing to do with the MAGA crowd.
 
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is already out of stock, dammit jajaj
Was it ever in stock? Even the description was misleading, “automatic movement “.
 
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Was it ever in stock? Even the description was misleading, “automatic movement “.

Probably a special, special version for the American market.
 
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Plummet, what are you talking about?



(It’s not me talking, it’s my crystal ball. If it were me talking I would say ‘I buy a watch because I like it and don’t care much for its value plummeting’...but seeing as it’s not me speaking...)
 
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Plummet, what are you talking about? At least one (maybe) was offered by Jomashop at decent discount, now a 6 to 10 week wait which in New Yawk terms means "fuggedaboutit ", it ain't happening. There are no great deals on Chrono24, all above retail and the number is relatively small, <0.5% of the total. None available to walk-ins at OBs or ADs, it's way oversubscribed at retail price. It's sold out. Prices are not plummeting. Will it hold it's value, no one knows, but I see no reason for any hand wringing.

Whether you can get hangtags, outer cardboard box, coffin is a hit or miss affair and can vary by retailer and location. I bought a plain hesalite Speedmaster two years ago in the Geneva boutique and they were just going to throw the brown cardboard box away so I salvaged that, then when I got back to the hotel I discovered the hangtag was missing. Walked back to the boutique where the salesman reached into the trash can and retrieved it, so they aren't sacred in Switzerland. But other places will almost arm wrestle you for the hangtag saying it is 'verboten' to give it to you. Usually for watches in dealer stock the outer cardboard box and coffin are long gone. But it's an interesting game with these associated items that have no real value but which the collector likes to have for completeness..
I just want to know one thing. Do you own one right now?
 
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I just want to know one thing. Do you own one right now?
Yes, I do, bought from the St Louis boutique on March 28th with 100% deposit, delivered on August 25th. Serial no. 96x/6969. Have been wearing it since I received it. So I just want to know one thing, why is it important to you whether I actually have one? My comment was irrelevant as to whether I actually own the piece, it was an observation on reality.
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It is surprising reading the comments of some of the Omega "fans" on here desperate for this watch to fail. Some seem to actively hate it which is peculiar behaviour. You can almost feel their excitement as they eagerly anticipate a value collapse and the ongoing despair of some imaginary flippers.

Many who bought this are watch collectors in for the long haul who couldn't give a fig about value retention and simply want a Speedy which directly celebrates one of the 20th centuries greatest achievements.

One piece listed on Jomashop available on the 12th of Never with no papers at a discount and the experts are calling for a price crash preceded by a "plummet" 👎

Others thinking the comments on this insignificant discussion forum in some way reflects/influences events and trends in the REAL WORLD 😵‍💫

I guess some who missed out are feeling a bit salty about the current premiums and would feel a whole lot better if they evaporated.
 
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Some of us have bought into the LE hype in the past and seen values drop below MSRP on some of them, and they were models with far less production numbers than this one. It is not excitement watching the price drop; it's more like the overhype was possibly setting some people up to take a big hit should they suffer from FOMO and fork over $$$ above MSRP to pick one up on the secondary market.
 
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It is surprising reading the comments of some of the Omega "fans" on here desperate for this watch to fail. Some seem to actively hate it which is peculiar behaviour. You can almost feel their excitement as they eagerly anticipate a value collapse and the ongoing despair of some imaginary flippers.

Many who bought this are watch collectors in for the long haul who couldn't give a fig about value retention and simply want a Speedy which directly celebrates one of the 20th centuries greatest achievements.

One piece listed on Jomashop available on the 12th of Never with no papers at a discount and the experts are calling for a price crash preceded by a "plummet" 👎

Others thinking the comments on this insignificant discussion forum in some way reflects/influences events and trends in the REAL WORLD 😵‍💫

I guess some who missed out are feeling a bit salty about the current premiums and would feel a whole lot better if they evaporated.
It's been like this since it was first announced early this year, before we even knew what it looked like. Some were overly negative because of 1. price, 2. number produced, 3. gold!!, 4. no 321 movement. Once it was revealed in mid-May the silliness ramped up again, 1. Buzz!!! 2. case back!!, 3. sapphire!!, 4. ceramic!!, etc. It was lots of doom and gloom from the naysayers who were not about to accept this watch, they predicted tons of these watches would be available for months/years in dealer showcases around the world, not able to be sold, even at deep discounts. It was a catastrophe. Omega goofed up, big time. Except it wasn't. Now they look for every little jiggle in the price to predict doom!!!, price crash!!, and worse.

Ignore these 'experts'. The market will decide if this is a success or not. So far it is a hit, we'll see what the future brings.
 
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My guess is a NOS in trade for another piece.
 
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It is surprising reading the comments of some of the Omega "fans" on here desperate for this watch to fail. Some seem to actively hate it which is peculiar behaviour. You can almost feel their excitement as they eagerly anticipate a value collapse and the ongoing despair of some imaginary flippers.

Many who bought this are watch collectors in for the long haul who couldn't give a fig about value retention and simply want a Speedy which directly celebrates one of the 20th centuries greatest achievements.

One piece listed on Jomashop available on the 12th of Never with no papers at a discount and the experts are calling for a price crash preceded by a "plummet" 👎

Others thinking the comments on this insignificant discussion forum in some way reflects/influences events and trends in the REAL WORLD 😵‍💫

I guess some who missed out are feeling a bit salty about the current premiums and would feel a whole lot better if they evaporated.

Frankly I think it’s because in the initial renderings it was really underwhelming, and from photos alone I really wasn’t sure about it at all much less worthy of such an
important commemoration. Having bought it and worn it though, I think in person it’s a truly beautiful watch and I really enjoy having it as part of my collection. Though I still think the package was underwhelming for the price asked.

Some of us have bought into the LE hype in the past and seen values drop below MSRP on some of them, and they were models with far less production numbers than this one. It is not excitement watching the price drop; it's more like the overhype was possibly setting some people up to take a big hit should they suffer from FOMO and fork over $$$ above MSRP to pick one up on the secondary market.

That’s their problem if they buy in the secondary market. Me, I buy based on whether or not I think I’ll enjoy wearing it, so resale value be damned. If I ever sell mine I expect I’ll take a hit financially, but in nearly two months of ownership I’ve had a ton of fun with it and so I really don’t care. And I think that while 6900+ units would be a lot for a watch nerd piece like a Speedy Tuesday, this one has quite a bit of broader appeal outside the Omega community so I can’t fault them for making a bunch more.
 
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(It’s not me talking, it’s my crystal ball. If it were me talking I would say ‘I buy a watch because I like it and don’t care much for its value plummeting’...but seeing as it’s not me speaking...)

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It is surprising reading the comments of some of the Omega "fans" on here desperate for this watch to fail. Some seem to actively hate it which is peculiar behaviour. You can almost feel their excitement as they eagerly anticipate a value collapse and the ongoing despair of some imaginary flippers.

Many who bought this are watch collectors in for the long haul who couldn't give a fig about value retention and simply want a Speedy which directly celebrates one of the 20th centuries greatest achievements.

One piece listed on Jomashop available on the 12th of Never with no papers at a discount and the experts are calling for a price crash preceded by a "plummet" 👎

Others thinking the comments on this insignificant discussion forum in some way reflects/influences events and trends in the REAL WORLD 😵‍💫

I guess some who missed out are feeling a bit salty about the current premiums and would feel a whole lot better if they evaporated.

I think alot of "fans" think or hope that it will fail; not that I'm speaking for them, but I would imagine it to be simply;

- Omega has reissued many many many variants of Speedmasters over the years; truly what is the definition of "Limited Edition"?

- Flippers/grey dealers have gone to the extend of signing up with multiple email accounts/getting friends and family to join in the allocation so as to get a piece to flip for 25-35% more (maybe, not sure of the margins)

I'm on the boat to see how much can these pseudo dealers hold on to their massive stock of LE pieces; when times are leaning down (doom and gloom of recession. Not to laugh at them per se, nor the "i told you so" but just to see a more nautralized pricing in the secondary market for these LE speedies.

Actually a great example is the 60th anniversary trilogy. I have owned both the speedy and seamaster, and their pricing RIGHT NOW, i feel is extremely fair. Far far far more interesting in terms of being the OG of Omega's flag ship watches.
 
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I find it unbelievable so early in the game to sell the watch for under retail, they would have found somebody to pay list price easily IMHO. I would think this to happen when it's sitting at AD's after all had been delivered like the A17 40th SS is still available. Looking at chrono24 reservations (which I don't know whether these have turned into sales) on the 50th at marked up prices people are willing to pay over retail.

A AD here in Sydney took my name down for one of these. When I asked what the likelihood is of getting a call, I was told that their list is almost 100 names long, and that they are expecting 3 or maybe 4 pieces.
I did the obvious and went the JS route. Nothing to lose....
 
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Frankly I think it’s because in the initial renderings it was really underwhelming, and from photos alone I really wasn’t sure about it at all much less worthy of such an
important commemoration. Having bought it and worn it though, I think in person it’s a truly beautiful watch and I really enjoy having it as part of my collection. Though I still think the package was underwhelming for the price asked.



That’s their problem if they buy in the secondary market. Me, I buy based on whether or not I think I’ll enjoy wearing it, so resale value be damned. If I ever sell mine I expect I’ll take a hit financially, but in nearly two months of ownership I’ve had a ton of fun with it and so I really don’t care. And I think that while 6900+ units would be a lot for a watch nerd piece like a Speedy Tuesday, this one has quite a bit of broader appeal outside the Omega community so I can’t fault them for making a bunch more.
You hit a right spot, this has broader appeal than just omega; being the 50th anniversary of the moon landing.
 
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A AD here in Sydney took my name down for one of these. When I asked what the likelihood is of getting a call, I was told that their list is almost 100 names long, and that they are expecting 3 or maybe 4 pieces.
I did the obvious and went the JS route. Nothing to lose....
I was lucky enough to acquire one at an AD, I understand your predicament having such a long list in Sydney, good luck with JS hope it comes through.