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The problem with the 'safe for work site' standard is too many people have been trained to be 'triggered' by whatever the offense du jour is, they are looking for something to be upset about. Simple jokes that are truly innocuous by past standards are now elevated to be a firing offense if even one person is upset by it, and there is always that one person. I don't know why the mods want the aggravation of moderating the joke thread, it's a lose-lose situation, imo.
 
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Please don't consider this post as an "argument" in the street sense. I state what i state, respectfully.

If management were to reopen a joke thread, I will abide by the house rules whatever they may be . . . and without complaint.

That said . . .

One may open up a news virtual page at work and see a photo of of a person with a black eye. Anyone who is triggered by a depiction of violence, cannot read the newspaper, look at the New York Times or the Washington post or the BBC online . . . and certainly one cannot watch either conventional network TV or anything beyond a children's show on Netflix or Amazon Prime, et al.

Looking at a photo that depicts violence does not normalize violence. Hopefully, it may have an opposite effect. What such a photo (without context) does do is to reflect real life, something we must all learn how to handle to live a healthy and productive life.

Apart from the above, the joke was very funny. 😉

~ Joe

Edit: I've edited this post a couple of times as I reflect further and struggle to get the nuance right, but perhaps I ought not to have said anything at all? I did not intend to offend anyone.

Just now, it occurred to me that, if the photo used in the joke above were of a a woman with a black eye or anyone else that society has historically considered more vulnerable than everyman, it would have offended nearly everyone and it would not be funny at all.

The times they are a changin'
I think the simple idea that this is something that provoked thoughtful contemplation means you are not one of the assholes- and I thought that joke was humorous- not hilarious, but elicited a “o-geez” smirk.
Nobody is saying “you can’t say anything funny anymore”- just simply be attentive to your audience and understand that you can say anything you want, but don’t expect it to be universally applauded.

The whole concept of “cancel culture” is ridiculous. Anyone can say anything they want- but being held accountable for what they say is the part many object to.
Just be considerate of those in the room with you, poor taste can be funny (think Mel Brooks), but being an asshole is never funny.
 
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Just be considerate of those in the room with you, poor taste can be funny (think Mel Brooks), but being an asshole is never funny.

I didn't get Mel Brooks, but he was married to Anne Bancroft who adored him. Definitely more to him than I appreciated.

Poor taste is not the same as bad taste?
 
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100% not picking an argument or taking any moral humour high-ground. Its just for regular members we need to agree where the bar is or we wont have a joke thread period. I also think these are very dangerous times for free speech and debate, which I believe are under great threat. A bit of subtle humour can get people thinking (me included + raise a smile - which is never a bad thing) so lets try to keep that. Your joke example in the context presented would get me in trouble at my last employer if I used it or viewed it with intent - so it fails the safe for work rule as set above by that standard. Also, there is the GDPR issue. It is a real person who may not of given permission for the injury photo to be used in that context / may not be happy for that image to be used - that opens up another can of worms. The line moves all the time / times are always changing, you can always make a case both ways (mostly). If you start from page 1 of the joke thread you can see culture moving along / a lot of the jokes would not work as well now. I just think given that the collective 'we' are now on a yellow card we should make an effort to stay under the bar more than not.... and make more time in the bar (apologies to any non-drinkers triggered by that statement :0)
 
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Talking of bars.
A Ham & Cheese sandwich walks into a bar and orders a beer, the barman says sorry we don’t serve food in here .
 
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The problem with the 'safe for work site' standard is too many people have been trained to be 'triggered' by whatever the offense du jour is, they are looking for something to be upset about. Simple jokes that are truly innocuous by past standards are now elevated to be a firing offense if even one person is upset by it, and there is always that one person. I don't know why the mods want the aggravation of moderating the joke thread, it's a lose-lose situation, imo.

I'm a mod on a couple of Facebook groups, and with the well known intolerance FB has, I can assure you that what I have seen so far in this group is very very tame compared to Facebook.

No one here in this board is responsible for someone's feelings.

The general problem in society today as those who curry influence attempt to empower the use of outrage and offense to bully their position.

Fact is, a mature adult can just move on without having a mental breakdown.

I don't know what's been deleted by mods here, but what I do see with this group is definitely a higher sensitivity to politically correct status. Just an observation.
 
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I'm a mod on a couple of Facebook groups, and with the well known intolerance FB has, I can assure you that what I have seen so far in this group is very very tame compared to Facebook.

No one here in this board is responsible for someone's feelings.

The general problem in society today as those who curry influence attempt to empower the use of outrage and offense to bully their position.

Fact is, a mature adult can just move on without having a mental breakdown.

I don't know what's been deleted by mods here, but what I do see with this group is definitely a higher sensitivity to politically correct status. Just an observation.

I just have a sensitivity to losing the joke thread but sadly I suspect that is the direction of travel. If we don’t want that then we need to collectively find a way to stay under the bar set by the mods. This is not a free speech environment/ they own the joint and we need to be cognisant of not breaching a perceived threshold. In this case the bar appears to be ‘work safe’ for jokes. I think most intelligent people could manage that / even nudge the line a bit …. But not take the p-ss…..
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I just have a sensitivity to losing the joke thread but sadly I suspect that is the direction of travel. If we don’t want that then we need to collectively find a way to stay under the bar set by the mods. This is not a free speech environment/ they own the joint and we need to be cognisant of not breaching a perceived threshold. In this case the bar appears to be ‘work safe’ for jokes. I think most intelligent people could manage that / even nudge the line a bit …. But not take the p-ss…..
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Well then the bar should be set. We all know we have to follow the rules, just set them and be done with it so it's clear. Sounds simple enough.

I've had lots of discussions with fellow mods on FB, you figure it out and move on. What I have learned is that undesirable behavior tends to follow a personality. Commonly someone who needs a warning doesn't listen anyway and eventually gets banned. Their personality gets the better of them. The internet seems to bring out the worst in some people.
 
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I'm not trying to stir up trouble, and obviously the owners of the site are free to handle the situation as they see fit, but if NSFW is the problem, why not allow a thread entitled NSFW joke thread which those in such environments, and others who are easily offended, could simply avoid?

I personally embrace 'no holds barred' humor not because I like it all, of course, but because being offended by a joke - any joke - is a choice, and also because some politically incorrect humor is friggin' hilarious. I am Jewish by birth, and have heard no end of related jokes that many would find appalling (in some places public posting might result in the police arriving at one's door), and yet they don't bother me in the slightest, and I even find some to be quite funny. Sure, it might be fair to wonder whether the person posting (or telling) such jokes could have character defects ( e.g, racist, sexist, etc.), but as far as I am concerned, on a joke thread (as opposed to say, a Ku Klux Klan meeting), the only salient question should be whether or not the joke in question happens to be funny.

Like at least a few others here, I am far more concerned about the contemporary PC-gone-wild culture than I could possibly be about any joke, no matter how distasteful. And it should go without saying that the former is vastly more dangerous for society than the latter.
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Let’s all acknowledge, by the way, the difference between blatant idiocy and inconsideration, versus the occasional slip-up by a regular poster who may have inadvertently stepped over the line in a difficult to navigate, and constantly moving-target of what’s acceptable.
 
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Yea the “HR” rule is probably too strict considering just about anything can get you in trouble or “cancelled” these days depending on which way the wind is blowing. I’m a product of my generation so I think some of the progress made is a good thing but agree the cancel culture and angry mobs stifling free speech is very bad. But as someone mentioned this is OFs playground and it’s more tame than a frat house.

To go back to the Disney example earlier, the things that used to be in Disney movies would never fly these days and I think that’s mostly a good thing. I watch a lot of them with young kids. I think it’s good that people aren’t smoking and drinking in kids movies anymore. And I’d prefer not to have to explain to my 4-5 year olds what “stringing someone up from a tree” means. Crazy some of the references in those older movies.
 
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How about we post about watches on a watch forum…

Someone start a joke forum.

Most of the stuff posted lately I have seen 3 days prior on Instagram
 
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How about we post about watches on a watch forum…

Someone start a joke forum.

Most of the stuff posted lately I have seen 3 days prior on Instagram

Just watches? Naw. Its more fun the way it is. Because we are a community. We're a bunch of folks sitting around a virtual campfire or dinner party, talking about what we love. And like any group hanging around talking, the conversation goes many directions as it evolves. Completely different areas, but since we know each other through our association, its ok and kinda fun too.

All discussion boards have alternative discussion areas for this purpose. They recognize its a community, and has its own personality with alternative desires for discussion.

I, for one, enjoy the alternative threads here as much as the dedicated watch threads, mostly because I like the personality of this forum. Like minded people talking about....whatever.
 
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Hope this one doesn't cross a line....

Why do cows wear bells?
Because their horns don’t work.
 
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I'm not trying to stir up trouble, and obviously the owners of the site are free to handle the situation as they see fit, but if NSFW is the problem, why not allow a thread entitled NSFW joke thread which those in such environments, and others who are easily offended, could simply avoid?

I can only imagine what that thread would look like - it wouldn't be pretty I suspect.

The question is, would the members and mods want to be associated with a forum that has such a thread? Does having a thread like this meet the goals the mods have for this forum? I doubt that is the case. The "just don't read it" idea I think is a rather limited view of things.
 
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NSFW

Why? because you shouldn't be on this forum if you're at work.

Here's a humour test. To me its a hilarious social commentary related to our recent discussion.

But here's the problem....I seriously hesitated posting this. Should I be second guessing myself?

BTW, the Mom test I mentioned before applies here....she would have thought this was hilarious too.

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because you shouldn't be on this forum if you're at work.

I can only speak for my former workplace, but during lunch we were free to use the internet for non-work purposes. Of course there were limits regarding the type of sites we could use, but a watch forum would not be any violation of the rules.
 
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NSFW

Why? because you shouldn't be on this forum if you're at work.
That's just a term. It's not about people browsing a forum at work. It's the fact that the OF leadership doesn't want smut on their website. Not trying to argue, just pointing out the distinction.
 
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How about this then . . .

Paddy: "What 'appened to you me friend? Dat is sahme black eye you are spahrtin! And dahn't be tellin me you fell into a door nahb!"

Seamus: I 'ave been tellin' ya me wife's cookin 'as gahne down 'ill o' late, 'aven't I now?. Well de ahther night I 'ad enough and I finally spahke ap and dis is what I gaht fahr me trooehble.

Paddy: "And so?

Seamus: "Ahnly a day later and I find 'er cookin 'as gahtten so moehch better!

That's not going to offend anyone, right?

But, I think it still needs a photo of a coupla guys sitting in a pub where the guy facing us has one heck of a shiner.

~ Joe