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flqt-9000
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Hello forum,

I recently bougth a Seamster 145.019 with withe dial and roulette bezel. When I bought it the previous owner had already ordered an extract of archives which arrived some days later. Obviously the seller uploaded all the pictures as required by Omega.
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When the extract arrived, I was surprised because it stated "gray dial" instead of white. So, I ask you what could have happened? An error from Omega archives or a much unlikely dial (and hands) swap?
Any comment is welcome.
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Dan S
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I wonder if Omega even has a record of which dial went with the movement.
 
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Dan S Dan S
I wonder if Omega even has a record of which dial went with the movement.
I believed yes. Elsewhere how could they distinguish all the exotic speedmaster dials?
 
flqt-9000
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Well, the hour/minute/second track looks gray......
This is what I thought too, but then I ordered the extract for my other soccer, and...:

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flqt-9000 flqt-9000
When the extract arrived, I was surprised because it stated "gray dial" instead of white. So, I ask you what could have happened? An error from Omega archives or a much unlikely dial (and hands) swap?

We're running off supposition right? But I think you're covering the only two options available.

As I understand it the microfiche hold quite a lot of information that is specific to the watch as a whole... so if the records show it had a grey dial, it probably had a grey dial?

If it did, it looks like it was swapped a long time ago (or recently using NOS parts). Maybe at a service by customer request? Or by a dealer who wanted to change the look of a piece he had for sale?

A lot can happen in 50 years.

This might be one of those "there's no real way of knowing" things.
 
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tyrantlizardrex tyrantlizardrex
We're running off supposition right? But I think you're covering the only two options available.

As I understand it the microfiche hold quite a lot of information that is specific to the watch as a whole... so if the records show it had a grey dial, it probably had a grey dial?

If it did, it looks like it was swapped a long time ago (or recently using NOS parts). Maybe at a service by customer request? Or by a dealer who wanted to change the look of a piece he had for sale?

A lot can happen in 50 years.

This might be one of those "there's no real way of knowing" things.

I exclude the dial and the hands being recent NOS parts. And I can also exclude that the seller swapped the dial. The bezel is also from the period and not a replacement (the font is different).
So assuming that the information was correctly extracted from the microfilm, the only option is that it was swapped during a past sevice.
 
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I add, that I am confused. I believed that Omega, by applying the new rules, would not release an extract for a watch that does not match the informations of their archive.
 
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I’d say it’s possible Omega have no record of what dial/hands were originally fitted to the watch and simply going off the photos you supplied, the technician categorised your dial as grey.
 
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Davidt Davidt
I’d say it’s possible Omega have no record of what dial/hands were originally fitted to the watch and simply going off the photos you supplied, the technician categorised your dial as grey.
If there was a way to contact them, the mistery would be solved.
 
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flqt-9000 flqt-9000
If there was a way to contact them, the mistery would be solved.

Is there nothing on the website? Maybe something for the museum team?
 
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tyrantlizardrex tyrantlizardrex
Is there nothing on the website? Maybe something for the museum team?
I have never succeded to reach them directly.. some months ago I tried to contact them because one extract has never arrived to my address, but nothing I am still waiting for it 🙁.
 
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flqt-9000 flqt-9000
I add, that I am confused. I believed that Omega, by applying the new rules, would not release an extract for a watch that does not match the informations of their archive.
I expect matching information means the movement number being matched to the correct case. A dial may be considered a service item and as has been noted a lot can happen over 50 years....
 
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I too never got a reply with an extract issue, good luck with your mystery

Not to make fun or anything but the issue reminded me of the white/grey color changing car BMW released recently
 
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I had an issue in the past with an extract. My 105.012-66 Meister was produced in 1964 in the first EOA received. Obviously an error. I tried to contact Omega, also via boutique but the only solution was to pay another EOA. The second one received was 1967. ( same day and month).
 
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Cuttysark Cuttysark
I had an issue in the past with an extract. My 105.012-66 Meister was produced in 1964 in the first EOA received. Obviously an error. I tried to contact Omega, also via boutique but the only solution was to pay another EOA. The second one received was 1967. ( same day and month).
That is outrageous. Did you get it refunded? We have seen this issue of the year being wrong a few times on here.
 
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It's possible the technician may have made a mistake based on your pictures, but it's not my guess...
or your serial lead them to this grey dial, it means you have a service dial.

You can try to contact them and see what they say about it.
 
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perenowell perenowell
It's possible the technician may have made a mistake based on your pictures, but it's not my guess...
or your serial lead them to this grey dial, it means you have a service dial.

You can try to contact them and see what they say about it.

Do you even read? He covered all these already
 
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Cuttysark Cuttysark
I had an issue in the past with an extract. My 105.012-66 Meister was produced in 1964 in the first EOA received. Obviously an error. I tried to contact Omega, also via boutique but the only solution was to pay another EOA. The second one received was 1967. ( same day and month).
in your case the information has been read or transcribed incorrectly .. human errors occur, and they can also be corrected .. but not at the expense of the customer ..
 
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