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  1. flqt-9000 Jan 5, 2022

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    Hello forum,

    I recently bougth a Seamster 145.019 with withe dial and roulette bezel. When I bought it the previous owner had already ordered an extract of archives which arrived some days later. Obviously the seller uploaded all the pictures as required by Omega.
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    When the extract arrived, I was surprised because it stated "gray dial" instead of white. So, I ask you what could have happened? An error from Omega archives or a much unlikely dial (and hands) swap?
    Any comment is welcome.
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  2. Dan S Jan 5, 2022

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    I wonder if Omega even has a record of which dial went with the movement.
     
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  3. flqt-9000 Jan 5, 2022

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    I believed yes. Elsewhere how could they distinguish all the exotic speedmaster dials?
     
  4. Zapatta Jan 5, 2022

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  5. wsfarrell Jan 5, 2022

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    Well, the hour/minute/second track looks gray......
     
  6. flqt-9000 Jan 5, 2022

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    This is what I thought too, but then I ordered the extract for my other soccer, and...:

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  7. tyrantlizardrex Jan 5, 2022

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    We're running off supposition right? But I think you're covering the only two options available.

    As I understand it the microfiche hold quite a lot of information that is specific to the watch as a whole... so if the records show it had a grey dial, it probably had a grey dial?

    If it did, it looks like it was swapped a long time ago (or recently using NOS parts). Maybe at a service by customer request? Or by a dealer who wanted to change the look of a piece he had for sale?

    A lot can happen in 50 years.

    This might be one of those "there's no real way of knowing" things.
     
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  8. flqt-9000 Jan 5, 2022

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    I exclude the dial and the hands being recent NOS parts. And I can also exclude that the seller swapped the dial. The bezel is also from the period and not a replacement (the font is different).
    So assuming that the information was correctly extracted from the microfilm, the only option is that it was swapped during a past sevice.
     
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  9. flqt-9000 Jan 5, 2022

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    I add, that I am confused. I believed that Omega, by applying the new rules, would not release an extract for a watch that does not match the informations of their archive.
     
  10. Davidt Jan 5, 2022

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    I’d say it’s possible Omega have no record of what dial/hands were originally fitted to the watch and simply going off the photos you supplied, the technician categorised your dial as grey.
     
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  11. flqt-9000 Jan 5, 2022

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    If there was a way to contact them, the mistery would be solved.
     
  12. tyrantlizardrex Jan 5, 2022

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    Is there nothing on the website? Maybe something for the museum team?
     
  13. flqt-9000 Jan 6, 2022

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    I have never succeded to reach them directly.. some months ago I tried to contact them because one extract has never arrived to my address, but nothing I am still waiting for it :(.
     
  14. jaguar11 Jan 6, 2022

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    I expect matching information means the movement number being matched to the correct case. A dial may be considered a service item and as has been noted a lot can happen over 50 years....
     
  15. kaplan Jan 6, 2022

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    I too never got a reply with an extract issue, good luck with your mystery

    Not to make fun or anything but the issue reminded me of the white/grey color changing car BMW released recently
     
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  16. Cuttysark Jan 7, 2022

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    I had an issue in the past with an extract. My 105.012-66 Meister was produced in 1964 in the first EOA received. Obviously an error. I tried to contact Omega, also via boutique but the only solution was to pay another EOA. The second one received was 1967. ( same day and month).
     
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  17. padders Oooo subtitles! Jan 7, 2022

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    That is outrageous. Did you get it refunded? We have seen this issue of the year being wrong a few times on here.
     
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  18. perenowell Jan 7, 2022

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    It's possible the technician may have made a mistake based on your pictures, but it's not my guess...
    or your serial lead them to this grey dial, it means you have a service dial.

    You can try to contact them and see what they say about it.
     
  19. kaplan Jan 7, 2022

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    Do you even read? He covered all these already
     
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  20. flqt-9000 Jan 7, 2022

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    in your case the information has been read or transcribed incorrectly .. human errors occur, and they can also be corrected .. but not at the expense of the customer ..
     
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