Is this the new Speedmaster?

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What’s the reason for the “human space missions” instead of “manned”? Gender equality? Humanoid robots going into space blur the lines between manned and umanned? 😕😕

So I can’t take my Dog to Mars now.. 😉
 
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Is the sapphire on the 50th the same as the sapphire on the current sapphire sandwich? In other words, is the so-called "milky ring" still present?

There are now a few sapphire crystals across these models.

Current Speedy Pro ending in "006" - 062SL5005 - 34.2 mm diameter, 4.65 mm height, inner radius 143.2, outer radius 145

50th Speedy - 062SNZ011758 - 34.2 mm diameter, 4.8 mm height, inner radius 143.4, outer radius 145

New watch - 062SNZ013177 - 34.2 mm diameter, 4.65 mm height, inner radius 143.3, outer radius 145

So there are subtle differences between the crystals.

Cheers, Al

 
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There are now a few sapphire crystals across these models.

Current Speedy Pro ending in "006" - 062SL5005 - 34.2 mm diameter, 4.65 mm height, inner radius 143.2, outer radius 145

50th Speedy - 062SNZ011758 - 34.2 mm diameter, 4.8 mm height, inner radius 143.4, outer radius 145

New watch - 062SNZ013177 - 34.2 mm diameter, 4.65 mm height, inner radius 143.3, outer radius 145

So there are subtle differences between the crystals.

Cheers, Al

That is very helpful. Thanks!
 
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What’s the reason for the “human space missions” instead of “manned”? Gender equality? Humanoid robots going into space blur the lines between manned and umanned? 😕😕

It's in accordance with the NASA style guide;

Gender-Specific Language (e.g., Manned Space Program vs. Human Space Program)
In general, all references to the space program should be non-gender-specific (e.g., human, piloted, unpiloted, robotic, as opposed to manned or unmanned). The exception to the rule is when referring to the Manned Spaceflight Center (also known as the Manned Spacecraft Center), the predecessor of Johnson Space Center in Houston, or to any other historical program name or official title that included “manned” (e.g., Associate Administrator for Manned Spaceflight)

https://history.nasa.gov/styleguide.html
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It's in the NASA style guide;

Gender-Specific Language (e.g., Manned Space Program vs. Human Space Program)
In general, all references to the space program should be non-gender-specific (e.g., human, piloted, unpiloted, robotic, as opposed to manned or unmanned). The exception to the rule is when referring to the Manned Spaceflight Center (also known as the Manned Spacecraft Center), the predecessor of Johnson Space Center in Houston, or to any other historical program name or official title that included “manned” (e.g., Associate Administrator for Manned Spaceflight)

https://history.nasa.gov/styleguide.html



Doesn’t manned actually already mean a Human




I would have liked - Flight qualified for all Anthropoid space missions



Also I can see in 20 years from now.
“Is that the human caseback or the manned caseback”
“First of the Human caseback models”
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Looks good to me. My only gripe would be I would have liked to get the Hesalite with the applied logo.
 
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Doesn’t manned actually already mean a Human

I would have liked - Flight qualified for all Anthropoid space missions

yes sure, I only meant to clarify that Omega's new engraving is in line with NASA's latest style guide. I have edited my comment above with 'accordance with' added.
 
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yes sure, I only meant to clarify that Omega's new engraving is in line with NASA's latest style guide. I have edited my comment above with 'accordance with' added.

Just having a laugh at the controversy a word change has had. 😉 Don’t really care what it says personally but it has upset a few people....
 
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Overall I love the changes, including the tapered bracelet and availability of the Cordura Strap.

Apologies if this has been covered, but can anyone confirm that the Sapphire version will have a transparent caseback? The current Sapphire Sandwich specifically calls out "Transparent Caseback" on the product sheet but this PDF has different wording. The PDF does say "polished caseback with double bevels and sapphire crystal" so I assume it will show the movement but I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere.
 
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I would have gone with the Sapphire either way but the applied logo is a bonus for me. That was the only thing i liked better on the previous SMP300 diver vs the current one.
 
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Is it just me or do those lugs look fantastic. 🥰
Big contender for being my first modern Speedy...

Are they any different? Lugs look unchanged to me, as beautiful as they are already 😉
 
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I'm just glad to know that my old caseback is now officially considered sexist and offensive. 😟::facepalm1::

I actually am going to buy a current version just so I can get one with the terminology that NASA would have actually used at the time this watch was relevant from a tool perspective.
 
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It’s funny that Archer suggests that there should be a trigger warning for those who object to the new wording, since the new wording is in response to people who are easily triggered.

Never fear, I predict that the old wording will spur a black market for the incredibly insensitive and sexist “manned” casebacks (which will be henceforth known as the MCB). We’re all holding future classics, gentlemen...oops, please excuse...gentleHUmen.

Of course, you won’t be able to buy or sell MCB’s on eBay or any other public sales forum. You will have to sell them in private away from public scrutiny, just like Adolf Hitler paintings or lawn jockies.
 
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Interesting that Omega used ceramic bezel on the visuals... Just look at the dots distortion. They are underneath, not on the surface aluminium ones.
 
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Clearly this change has upset some people, and not just on this forum (I've seen comments about this in other places). Maybe when they release an official document they will put a trigger warning on it for those who are overly sensitive to this. 😉
Just having a laugh at the controversy a word change has had. 😉 Don’t really care what it says personally but it has upset a few people....

It is funny to read some of the comments on this thread. This is an exciting release and people are getting distracted by a word change ::facepalm1::

Back to the watch, it looks very very promising.
 
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The Forstner is really nice, more affordable, possibly better value relative to price, but certainly not better. What’s to prefer to the 50th? I have both and can feel the difference in quality starting with the pins to take out the links, continuing with the metal quality and finishing with the clasp system.

No micro-adjust, no stretch links. At $10,000 for the package, it really should have had a micro-adjust clasp at the very least.
 
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If only it had a vintage 1039 style bracelet. It's just me, but with few exceptions, I'm typically let down by Omega's bracelet lineup. It is a cool watch, though.
 
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No micro-adjust, no stretch links. At $10,000 for the package, it really should have had a micro-adjust clasp at the very least.

Quick micro adjustment makes a significant difference in comfort when wearing a watch all day, even if it is just one small step.

Even the 321 priced at $14K does not allow for quick adjustment without tools. They have it on some of their other clasps; they have a proven design with works well. I don't think the incremental cost of production would be prohibitive. It is quite baffling.
 
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It's in accordance with the NASA style guide;

Gender-Specific Language (e.g., Manned Space Program vs. Human Space Program)
In general, all references to the space program should be non-gender-specific (e.g., human, piloted, unpiloted, robotic, as opposed to manned or unmanned). The exception to the rule is when referring to the Manned Spaceflight
So I can’t take my Dog to Mars now.. 😉

Yes, of course you can but Speedy won’t be certified for him. Just don’t let him pilot the ship.
 
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Doesn’t manned actually already mean a Human




I would have liked - Flight qualified for all Anthropoid space missions



Also I can see in 20 years from now.
“Is that the human caseback or the manned caseback”
“First of the Human caseback models”

I would challenge this. If my mother’s cat went on a space mission, I would say that it was a manned mission (just manned by a cat)