I fell in love with Seamaster Cosmic.

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So cool, i bought the exact same model for my wife some montgs ago. The dial is in excellent condition. I was googling for this dial layout for a long time without success, i guess they are not that common.. didnt expect to find the exact same one on the forum 馃榾
For a second i thought maybe its the same watch, but then realised that the crosshair on my one is crossing the word COSMIC.
My wife never wore a watch before, but doesnt take this one off the wrist 馃榾
I also suspect those Cosmic dials are so well preserved since you need a special tool to open the case.
I hope the service by omega for this one will not cost me a fortune though..

Do not take it to Omega, they are not simpathetic to vintage so they'll send it to Switzerland to try to get it back to "as new" condition destroying all value and charm, charging a little fortune for destroying your watch. Any serious independent watchmaker can service the watch sinmpathetically to its vintage condition for a fraction of what Omega will charge.
 
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So cool, i bought the exact same model for my wife some montgs ago. The dial is in excellent condition. I was googling for this dial layout for a long time without success, i guess they are not that common.. didnt expect to find the exact same one on the forum 馃榾
For a second i thought maybe its the same watch, but then realised that the crosshair on my one is crossing the word COSMIC.
My wife never wore a watch before, but doesnt take this one off the wrist 馃榾
I also suspect those Cosmic dials are so well preserved since you need a special tool to open the case.
I hope the service by omega for this one will not cost me a fortune though..

Don鈥檛 send it to Omega, send it to Swiss Time Services in Essex or to Simon Freese. Simon was Workshop Manager at STS for more than ten years. Both will do a sympathetic restoration without destroying the provenance or patina.

STS are Omega approved and Simon has done all of the training. You鈥檒l not go wrong with either of them.
 
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Don鈥檛 send it to Omega, send it to Swiss Time Services in Essex or to Simon Freese. Simon was Workshop Manager at STS for more than ten years. Both will do a sympathetic restoration without destroying the provenance or patina.

STS are Omega approved and Simon has done all of the training. You鈥檒l not go wrong with either of them.
The problem is that i am located in Austria, and Simon is in UK?
I thought about it shortly. But since the dial doesnt have any aged lume, i thought they would leave it alone. Or am i mistaken?
The case is anyway kind of overpolished on this one, i thought it wouldnt get worse than it is now. Maybe i am wrong..
As long as they dont touch the dial and hands i guess i am fine. And i wrote it on the order. The watch is supposed to leave to Switzerland this week, for the cost estimation.
Unfortunately i read your reply a bit too late. Otherwise i would have tried contacting Simon first. Now i feel a bit bad..
Edit: now that i think about it, UK is in EU, so not such a big deal.. Maybe i should try contacting him after all..
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Do not take it to Omega, they are not simpathetic to vintage so they'll send it to Switzerland to try to get it back to "as new" condition destroying all value and charm, charging a little fortune for destroying your watch. Any serious independent watchmaker can service the watch sinmpathetically to its vintage condition for a fraction of what Omega will charge.
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I was told by the Omega Service Center today, that they would not get the replacement parts for this one, so would have to send it to Switzerland. But where would the independent watchmakers get replacement parts if needed, if even the official Service Center cant get them?
 
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I was told by the Omega Service Center today, that they would not get the replacement parts for this one, so would have to send it to Switzerland. But where would the independent watchmakers get replacement parts if needed, if even the official Service Center cant get them?

Im sorry, that's too late already.
 
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Im sorry, that's too late already.
Well its not too late, since no work has been done yet. i am waiting for the price estimation, so i could just refuse the work to be done.
But as i said, where would the independent watchmakers get replacement parts if needed, if even the official Service Center cant get them?
Or maybe they just dont want to bother?
 
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They don't bother. There are independent watchmakers with Omega parts accounts, plus these movements are aplenty, even on ebay one can normally buy needed parts.
 
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They don't bother. There are independent watchmakers with Omega parts accounts, plus these movements are aplenty, even on ebay one can normally buy needed parts.
Sorry, dont want to disagree, but are you talking from experience or just speculating?

This is an official Omega Service Center, and they do service watches locally, however for this reference they told me they dont get the parts, because Omega would only service them in Switzerland directly. Might be true, might be not.

I think this is a calibre 565 movement. Just like you say, should be plenty of donor parts available over the internet. Doesnt mean an independent watchmaker would go ebay searching for new spare parts. At least not every watchmaker.

I guess the only way to check for sure if a qualified watchmaker could check the availability of parts on the Omega intranet.
 
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Sorry, dont want to disagree, but are you talking from experience or just speculating?

This is an official Omega Service Center, and they do service watches locally, however for this reference they told me they dont get the parts, because Omega would only service them in Switzerland directly. Might be true, might be not.

I think this is a calibre 565 movement. Just like you say, should be plenty of donor parts available over the internet. Doesnt mean an independent watchmaker would go ebay searching for new spare parts. At least not every watchmaker.

I guess the only way to check for sure if a qualified watchmaker could check the availability of parts on the Omega intranet.

I've changed my mind, actually you might have done well giving to Omega, then again I may be just speculating...
 
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The problem is that i am located in Austria, and Simon is in UK?
I thought about it shortly. But since the dial doesnt have any aged lume, i thought they would leave it alone. Or am i mistaken?
The case is anyway kind of overpolished on this one, i thought it wouldnt get worse than it is now. Maybe i am wrong..
As long as they dont touch the dial and hands i guess i am fine. And i wrote it on the order. The watch is supposed to leave to Switzerland this week, for the cost estimation.
Unfortunately i read your reply a bit too late. Otherwise i would have tried contacting Simon first. Now i feel a bit bad..
Edit: now that i think about it, UK is in EU, so not such a big deal.. Maybe i should try contacting him after all..

If you鈥檝e still not sent it to Switzerland and you are thinking about what to do. Give SImon Freese or STS a call and talk it through with them. If you are not confident, if English is not your first language drop them an email.

[email protected] +44 1702 474441
[email protected] +44 1702 543100

Both are well respected for working on vintage Omega watches.
 
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I bought my first one approx one year ago and really I can only confirm this is an amazing watch with a nice size (35 mm but a large dial), beautiful aged dial and some very good stainless steel bracelet.
 
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If you鈥檝e still not sent it to Switzerland and you are thinking about what to do. Give SImon Freese or STS a call and talk it through with them. If you are not confident, if English is not your first language drop them an email.

[email protected] +44 1702 474441
[email protected] +44 1702 543100

Both are well respected for working on vintage Omega watches.
Thanks a lot! I actually sent him an email few days ago, havent received any answer yet. Maybe contacing over a phone is a good idea! 馃憤
 
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Thanks a lot! I actually sent him an email few days ago, havent received any answer yet. Maybe contacing over a phone is a good idea! 馃憤
You might find him a little slow in coming back to you as I know he鈥檚 really busy and it is just him. Phone maybe more successful
 
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Sadly you are right...

If you still enjoy it, then continue to do so 馃憤 just never look at it with a loupe again 馃槈
 
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Anyone here know a source on the various case models? I have seen a few: 34mm and 35mm cushion cases, non cushion case, 38mm cases shared with the various cushion cased seamasters such as 168.035 / 166.065
 
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Late to the party, but finally found an example in good shape. It鈥檚 in for a service now. Black rubber gasket disintegrated all over, but everything else was in good shape. First time the watch has been opened. 馃榾

I initially thought it was a 166.0128, when my watchmaker opened the case, turns out it was a 166.128

The serial (338) indicates 1971, but from what I鈥檝e read, the Cosmic 2000s were produced starting 1972. Can someone shed some light on this?

Thanks!

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166.0128 - 166.128 same thing.

Movements can sit for several years before being cased.
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