How will the new Planet Ocean influence future Seamaster Diver 300m?

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Anyway, I would be curious to see if someone has sales figure data for the second and third gen planet oceans as a % of omega's sales....
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I’ve also always been curious how big of a seller the Planet Oceans are. My feeling is that they aren’t all that popular, but I really have no clue.
 
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Boo, ceramic. If they're going back to the traditional wave style, it appears matte. A glossy ceramic insert is all wrong. Suppose matte ceramic would work. I'm just not a fan, but I do love my green SMP.
It might be "wrong", but I prefer ceramic over aluminum any day.

I would be fine with new models being offered in smaller sizes.

A new tapered bracelet option would be nice. One of my Citizen watches has a really nice tapered titanium bracelet that is unmatched by most drastically more expensive watches. I'd love to see Omega match this comfort. I'm not a fan of the new planet ocean bracelets, so I hope they keep the Seamaster style more similar to what it is now.
 
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Boo, ceramic. If they're going back to the traditional wave style, it appears matte. A glossy ceramic insert is all wrong. Suppose matte ceramic would work. I'm just not a fan, but I do love my green SMP.
I think ceramic is a really easy sell for the average buyer. If Omega is trying to position itself as a peer to Rolex, ceramic bezel with lume is a really easy selling point.

I don't know if it's going to come from the PO, but the SMP bracelet needs an overhaul. I don't dislike the the traditional bond one but it's definitely a relic of its time.
 
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with lume is a really easy selling point

Making this a standard feature would be a mistake. The industry moved away from illuminated bezels for a reason and the examples we see under current production today from Omega and Tudor have some durability issues.

It's as silly an upgrade as a sapphire case back- a fancy, a toy, not an elegance. There is nothing wrong with toys, but it's not how Omega competes with Rolex.
 
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Like all of you Seamaster owners, I too live a James Bondish, daredevil lifestyle with among other things deep sea diving. So naturaly we are conserned about the ruggedness of our watches.
Re alu vs ceramic, alu is softer and schratches more easily, but it wont crack. Ceramic is harder and wont scratch, but what about the cracking? Will it crack if it hits a door frame when I hurry to disarm a bomb or something?

I would rather finish the mission with a dinged alu bezel, than have to abort with a destroyed ceramic. Of couse I could time the frozen pizza with my phone, but thats beside the point.
 
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I think ceramic is a really easy sell for the average buyer. If Omega is trying to position itself as a peer to Rolex, ceramic bezel with lume is a really easy selling point.

I don't know if it's going to come from the PO, but the SMP bracelet needs an overhaul. I don't dislike the the traditional bond one but it's definitely a relic of its time.
Yeah, because "Oooh, shiny." It isnt a "better" material for a diver's watch. It makes watches pretty and more jewelry, and I like my green SMP and bracelet very much. Lumed bezel inserts are another shiny thing.
 
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Like all of you Seamaster owners, I too live a James Bondish, daredevil lifestyle with among other things deep sea diving. So naturaly we are conserned about the ruggedness of our watches.
Re alu vs ceramic, alu is softer and schratches more easily, but it wont crack. Ceramic is harder and wont scratch, but what about the cracking? Will it crack if it hits a door frame when I hurry to disarm a bomb or something?

I would rather finish the mission with a dinged alu bezel, than have to abort with a destroyed ceramic. Of couse I could time the frozen pizza with my phone, but thats beside the point.
I busted the bezel on my GSAR twice doing things you should do with a diver's watch. It has an aluminum bezel insert. Bezel remained functional but required the click spring to be replaced both times and the entire bezel assembly the second time. Insert survived both times, the steel bezel was tweaked the second time.

Aluminum and steel for watches that do work. Ceramic for pretty and precious jewelry watches.
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Like all of you Seamaster owners, I too live a James Bondish, daredevil lifestyle with among other things deep sea diving

Indeed. If I may- ESPECIALLY many of the secret missions I've been on that involved common playground/park equipment like jungle jims, playstructures, swings, &c &c- there's a high risk of metal-on-watch contact. Many times while chasing ninjas and zombies or being hunted by a pack of wild velociraptors has my watch banged something.

But so far I haven't managed to crack a ceramic bezel or scratch an aluminum one too badly. I'm honestly very happy with both materials!
 
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I personally dislike fully lumed bezels, think the current no date monochrome is ruined by it & oddly goes against the vintage vibes.


Personally prefer an ali bezel especially on vintage style watches & I liked watch to age/ shows sign of wear over the years.

However ceramic looks good on a modern style watch.
 
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Indeed. If I may- ESPECIALLY many of the secret missions I've been on that involved common playground/park equipment like jungle jims, playstructures, swings, &c &c- there's a high risk of metal-on-watch contact. Many times while chasing ninjas and zombies or being hunted by a pack of wild velociraptors has my watch banged something.

But so far I haven't managed to crack a ceramic bezel or scratch an aluminum one too badly. I'm honestly very happy with both materials!
WOW! You realy are better than James Bond, he was not chased by velociraptors, ever!

So if your summer blues ceramic bezel stands the test of your secret agent life style, I`ll guess the rest of us safely may wear the ceramic on missions.

Of course the shiny ceramic must be worn under the collar when ninjas are around the jungle jim to avoid detecction.

And we all have this to set us apart from our Speedy brethren.
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1. I agree with @ErichPryde the size is fine by me at least on my 2254, so lets compromize and go for 40mm. How ever the latest Seamaster needs do go on a diet, it is a thick boy!

2. Bring back the Speedy style bracelet from the 2254. The PO bracelet is nice too.

3. No Way! Its iconic Seamaster. We need the He : https://omegaforums.net/threads/big-problem-with-helium-escape.39163/

4. The scalloped bezel is iconic too, but it could be nice if it was easyer to turn when I am cooking frozen pizza. How about a scalloped bezel with a coin edge?

5. (or d maybe) I like the old wave dial and the gloss black dial from the first co axial better than the new lasered wave dial.

6. Hell yeah! bring back the sword hands! And the triangle at 12 and rectangle markers too.

7. Do NOT ditch the lyre lugs in favor of the angular case of the PO. NEVER!
Yes on #2 !!! Those were the best.
 
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How will the new Planet Ocean influence future Seamaster Diver 300m?

It won't.
 
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The only problems I have with the diver 300's is

1. their dials are boring/not beautiful (neither the aluminum nor the ceramic wave) and
2. their bracelet/clasp is also totally uninspired



Fix those things and I'd be a buyer
 
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The only problems I have with the diver 300's is

1. their dials are boring/not beautiful (neither the aluminum nor the ceramic wave) and
2. their bracelet/clasp is also totally uninspired



Fix those things and I'd be a buyer


1. WHAT! The old dial is beautiful in its functionality. It resembles the waved sight rails on expensive shot guns omong other thing.

2. WHAT! The tank tread bracelet is one of the more inspired thats out there, some people say its busy with inspiredness. The "Speedy" bracelet of the sword hand watches are just beautiful. And thats a god given objective fact!
The clasp is the most slim, deliciously beautiful functional thing ever created by man. Often compared to the Caryatids of the Acropolis of Athens a classical wonder.

Now go sit in the corner, you embarrass your self! 😀😉
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So do we expect an updated Seamaster (300SMP) this year, before W&W (I know swatch group don’t take part).

Or the hearsay was around the PO update?
 
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The only problems I have with the diver 300's is

1. their dials are boring/not beautiful (neither the aluminum nor the ceramic wave) and
2. their bracelet/clasp is also totally uninspired



Fix those things and I'd be a buyer
I know we've said things like, "That's what makes the Seamaster unique.", and "It's part of the SMP DNA.", etc., perhaps a bit hyperbolic, nostalgic, or tongue in cheek, but you should realize you actually have a problem with the SMP. Perhaps a completely different watch is best for you.
 
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So do we expect an updated Seamaster (300SMP) this year, before W&W (I know swatch group don’t take part).

Or the hearsay was around the PO update?
Given that the PO was just updated and the reverse panda Speedy was just released, I'm not expecting any other big drop in 2026. Maybe updated Aqua Terra shades collection in 41mm or another aluminum Seamaster 300 Pro on mesh bracelet.

I'm predicting the updated FOIS to be released in Sedna or moonshine for Jan 2027 Speedy Tuesday and updated Seamaster Pro second half of 2027. Omega needs to spread out the releases to keep people buying.
 
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I know we've said things like, "That's what makes the Seamaster unique.", and "It's part of the SMP DNA.", etc., perhaps a bit hyperbolic, nostalgic, or tongue in cheek, but you should realize you actually have a problem with the SMP. Perhaps a completely different watch is best for you.

I like a lot of things about it including the scalloped bezel, indices with their shiny lume plots, skeleton hands (especially brushed like on the ceramic titanium model), case shape, He valve, and Omega logo. I also prefer larger watches. I own the sedna ceramic 43mm and love it. But if I could redesign it, I'd make that dial an inky black without waves, or some other cool design like what they've done on the summer blue ultra deep, or maybe aventurine, or some degrade effect. Waves have been removed in past diver 300s. There are likely ways to keep wave motif while making it attractive. Other brands have executed a wave effect that was much more interesting. Have you seen breguet's reveil musical? That's a great wave effect.

As for the bracelet and clasp, they've already made excellent upgrades on other models like the ultra deep. They just haven't tried yet for the diver. In an era with the moser streamliner, AP, vacheron, and Rolex all of which make unbelievably cool bracelets omegas gotta try to keep up
 
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I like a lot of things about it including the scalloped bezel, indices with their shiny lume plots, skeleton hands (especially brushed like on the ceramic titanium model), case shape, He valve, and Omega logo. I also prefer larger watches. I own the sedna ceramic 43mm and love it. But if I could redesign it, I'd make that dial an inky black without waves, or some other cool design like what they've done on the summer blue ultra deep, or maybe aventurine, or some degrade effect. Waves have been removed in past diver 300s. There are likely ways to keep wave motif while making it attractive. Other brands have executed a wave effect that was much more interesting. Have you seen breguet's reveil musical? That's a great wave effect.

As for the bracelet and clasp, they've already made excellent upgrades on other models like the ultra deep. They just haven't tried yet for the diver. In an era with the moser streamliner, AP, vacheron, and Rolex all of which make unbelievably cool bracelets omegas gotta try to keep up
Interesting take. I personally believe Omega is keeping up just fine selling their watches. Perhaps I'm just a poor smpleton but I like Omega designs over any of those other brands and enjoy being able to drive to a nearby AD or Boutique and actually purchase the watch I want. That they enjoy a strong secondary market makes it a no brainer. Again, it sounds like a different watch is for you.
 
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Like all of you Seamaster owners, I too live a James Bondish, daredevil lifestyle with among other things deep sea diving. So naturaly we are conserned about the ruggedness of our watches.
Re alu vs ceramic, alu is softer and schratches more easily, but it wont crack. Ceramic is harder and wont scratch, but what about the cracking? Will it crack if it hits a door frame when I hurry to disarm a bomb or something?

I would rather finish the mission with a dinged alu bezel, than have to abort with a destroyed ceramic. Of couse I could time the frozen pizza with my phone, but thats beside the point.
Durability has never been a concern for me and I'd be equally as annoyed with a dented aluminum bezel as a shattered ceramic. I'd still be replacing it either way, so it's kind of a moot point to me.

I don't think there are better practical options than ceramic for bezels. Synthetic lab grown sapphire is close, but is equally likely to crack with shock forces as ceramic and costs a small fortune for thick large pieces.