Help with Vintage 1960’s Seamaster De Ville Crown…

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CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

Hi all,
Just looking for some helpful advice, please and thank you…
I believe this crown looks correct but I’m not an expert.
Do we think this is the correct crown for the reference?
Thanks in advance

 

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CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

And while we’re at it… I’m almost positive the dial is fine but the hands?
Thank you!

 

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GuiltyGear

·Jan 23, 2024

Is it a 166.020? I have one with a different dial configuration: photo, more photos. The crown looks like a replacement. The hands too in my eye; they're supposed to have a black part and the hour hand looks too long, but I may be wrong.

 

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X350 XJR

·Jan 23, 2024·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Hands look fine as this appears to be a no lume dial. Original crown would be scalloped, but this one might have been a legitimate replacement as the scalloped one was NLA for awhile.

 

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CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

Hmm yeah they are usually like that… yes that is the reference number. Thanks for your help, I’m not sure…

 

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CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

X350 XJR

Hands look fine as this appears to be a no lume dial. Original crown would be scalloped, but this one might have been a legitimate replacement as the scalloped one was NLA for awhile.

Oh ok… man you guys are all awesome haha

 

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CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

You guys notice the omega and automatic seemingly being uneven?

 

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Davidt

·Jan 23, 2024

Agree the dial is original but not in the best shape. Crown is certainly not original.
There’s a lot of DeVilles around in great condition so it’s not a model where one should compromise on quality imo

 

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X350 XJR

·Jan 23, 2024·Vintage Omega Aficionado

 

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dsio

·Jan 23, 2024·Ash @ ΩF

Title edited to make it more helpful 👍

 

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SOG53

·Jan 23, 2024

Crown shots same reference

 

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dsio

·Jan 23, 2024·Ash @ ΩF

Those scalloped crowns are my favorite of that whole era, I use them even on some Constellations and early Seamasters which should have clover or decagonal crowns since they’re much easier to grip and pull yet still look good and fit the design of the watch.

 

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qazwsx1

·Jan 23, 2024

@dsio , the scalloped crowns are my favorite too.

 

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cristos71

·Jan 24, 2024

qazwsx1

@dsio , the scalloped crowns are my favorite too.

Do you have the specifictions of these three crown types....as I have about 15 pieces in steel but I'm not sure of which type

Edited: Jan 24, 2024

 

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CLA05

·Jan 24, 2024

Very much appreciated all 😀

 

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qazwsx1

·Jan 24, 2024

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Do you have the specifictions of these three crown types....as I have about 15 pieces in steel but I'm not sure of which type

Hi @cristos71 , in my opinion, there are 3 types of scalloped crown which was differentiated by their dimensions.

I posted the information with all three examples here:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/the...onstellation-crowns.54568/page-3#post-2284117

I found this watch (ref. 14770 from omegaenthusiast) with this crown.

Also, I found the reference 166.020 with the same hour-markers pattern.

I believe that “4203” might be the correct one?
@SOG53 , can you measure your crown and share some information?

Edited: Jan 24, 2024

 

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X350 XJR

·Jan 25, 2024·Vintage Omega Aficionado

So if you weren't confused enough already...

The uni-shell cases (14725, 166.020, etc) were originally fitted with crowns which had the female portion of the stem fixed as an integral part of the crown (they didn't unscrew). Crown size and stem length were related to the reference and or caliber family.