1960's Seamaster - Factory Service

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I have a 60's era Seamaster that I inherited from my father. It has been packed away for a very long time and I don't recall him ever wearing it. The hands move after winding, but it does not keep time accurately, so I decided to have it serviced, mainly because I see it as a classic timepiece. I did some research and sent it to a guy in Dayton, Ohio for servicing but, surprisingly, he recommended that it should be serviced by Omega in Geneva. He shipped to Omega with my consent and I'm waiting for their estimate. In the interim, I found this forum and saw and old post stating that Omega will likely refurbish the watch, which will lower its value. While I'm not overly concerned about the value, I would like to maintain whatever historical significance that the watch has and eventually pass it on to my grandson. What is the current thinking about the pros and cons of Omega factory servicing? Is there another option that I should be looking into?

I apologize for the low quality photos but I took them before any of these questions came up and I don't currently have the watch in my possession.

Thanks!

 
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At this point you might as well wait to see what Omega says. They won't do any work without approval. If you didn't ship it directly, you should contact the person who sent it to Omega and emphasize that you want the opportunity to approve any work before it is undertaken.
 
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I would recommend a movement service only. If the crystal is clean. Just leave it. Case. You can just use a jewellers rouge cloth for a quick polish.

Crown looks a little worn. Hard to tell by image, but there are no gold filled replacement crowns. All current crowns are gold plated and will look a bit out of place. Again. Hard to tell by image on its condition

Sold all my crowns a time ago
 
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The biggest downside you will find about the factory service there is that it will cost more than the watch is worth. It will be in the 4 figure ballpark on a vintage piece. The dial and hands look very clean there (and I suspect may have been replaced sometime in the past) and a regular independent service should work just fine and be a lot more reasonable in price. It will be interesting to hear what Omega say but if as I suspect the cost is eye watering you do have other options.
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Get the name of a good independent watchmaker - on this forum you will get good advise - and get it serviced there. Case only cleaned, movement full service, plexy just polished, hands and dial left untouched.
 
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Thanks for the replies! All solid advice. As mentioned, the watch is out of my hands at the moment so I'll wait for Omegas estimate. They charge $150 for their estimate if I don't approve the work so that, plus shipping costs, might offset any savings I'd get from going with an independent repair person. I was guessing the cost would be a minimum of $700 from the guy I sent the watch to, and at least $1000 from Omega. I realize that's possibly more than the watch is worth but I have no intention of selling it so that's not a primary concern.

I'll post an update after I get the estimate. If I can get them to do a movement service only, that seems like my best option.

Thanks again!
 
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Thanks for the replies! All solid advice. As mentioned, the watch is out of my hands at the moment so I'll wait for Omegas estimate. They charge $150 for their estimate if I don't approve the work so that, plus shipping costs, might offset any savings I'd get from going with an independent repair person. I was guessing the cost would be a minimum of $700 from the guy I sent the watch to, and at least $1000 from Omega. I realize that's possibly more than the watch is worth but I have no intention of selling it so that's not a primary concern.

I'll post an update after I get the estimate. If I can get them to do a movement service only, that seems like my best option.

Thanks again!
If you didn't authorise sending the watch to Switzerland, I don't see how they can hold you to the $150 estimate fee, but that is between you and them. Please feedback on what Omega say. It will be interesting to get a solid data point.
 
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I'm interested to see this unfold. I'd love to hear what they say! I think the watch looks fantastic for just normal wear and family history. Should be a nice daily wear that your kiddo will love when that time comes.
 
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I am also curious what Omega will suggest for this vintage piece. Please post their answer!
 
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Now that I see photos, I'm pretty surprised that the Ohio watchmaker felt that the watch needed to be sent to Switzerland. This is a very basic entry-level piece, worth only a few hundred USD, and probably needs only a standard movement service. I understand that it has sentimental value, but that's no reason to be silly about how much you spend on it.
 
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Omega will offer you a price to refurbish, or you can have them do mechanical only.
 
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If you didn't authorise sending the watch to Switzerland, I don't see how they can hold you to the $150 estimate fee, but that is between you and them. Please feedback on what Omega say. It will be interesting to get a solid data point.
I did authorize sending it to Omega but I was relying on the expertise of the watchmaker who made the recommendation. I'm slowly educating myself so I'm happy to have found this forum.
 
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I did authorize sending it to Omega but I was relying on the expertise of the watchmaker who made the recommendation. I'm slowly educating myself so I'm happy to have found this forum.
It seems I read your initial post wrong, you clearly state it was shipped with your consent but I understood the opposite hence my post above. Maybe they will surprise us with a reasonable figure. Let's hope so.
 
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Now that I see photos, I'm pretty surprised that the Ohio watchmaker felt that the watch needed to be sent to Switzerland. This is a very basic entry-level piece, worth only a few hundred USD, and probably needs only a standard movement service. I understand that it has sentimental value, but that's no reason to be silly about how much you spend on it.
I was surprised as well. The guy I sent it to has great reviews and seems knowledgeable. I'm not sure why he declined to service it himself. I'll let you know how this plays out but, yes, there's a limit to how much I plan to spend on this project.
 
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I was surprised as well. The guy I sent it to has great reviews and seems knowledgeable. I'm not sure why he declined to service it himself. I'll let you know how this plays out but, yes, there's a limit to how much I plan to spend on this project.
Stoll did that with my 1987 Constellation also, so it went to Geneva. My local Omega dealer sent it to them first since I just wanted it looked at.
 
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I was surprised as well. The guy I sent it to has great reviews and seems knowledgeable. I'm not sure why he declined to service it himself. I'll let you know how this plays out but, yes, there's a limit to how much I plan to spend on this project.
If this is a big repair shop, they may not want to deal with any watch where they can't simply get parts from the manufacturer.
 
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I have a 60's era Seamaster that I inherited from my father. It has been packed away for a very long time and I don't recall him ever wearing it. The hands move after winding, but it does not keep time accurately, so I decided to have it serviced, mainly because I see it as a classic timepiece. I did some research and sent it to a guy in Dayton, Ohio for servicing but, surprisingly, he recommended that it should be serviced by Omega in Geneva. He shipped to Omega with my consent and I'm waiting for their estimate. In the interim, I found this forum and saw and old post stating that Omega will likely refurbish the watch, which will lower its value. While I'm not overly concerned about the value, I would like to maintain whatever historical significance that the watch has and eventually pass it on to my grandson. What is the current thinking about the pros and cons of Omega factory servicing? Is there another option that I should be looking into?

I apologize for the low quality photos but I took them before any of these questions came up and I don't currently have the watch in my possession.

Thanks!
I support the advice and information mentioned in the previous replies!! I kept quiet at first as I really had nothing else to add!!

But when I reflected on it, I could not understand for the life of me why your watchmaker would want to send it to Geneva???? My first impression was that maybe he would not be able to get parts if he is not an authorized Omega service watchmaker. Surely there are many other National/ local authorized service centers that would be able to get parts should the need arise!! This would have been a more feasible option!!
Why?
Upon viewing your images, ( even if the quality is poor), I do believe your story that the watch has had very little use as I see hardly any wear sections on the plated part of the case. Having said this, it would need no more than a movement service and not a complete restoration warranting the need for Omega in Geneva to be involved. The dial looks nice and so does the case. I had exactly that same model which I recall to be a 165.001 (powered by a caliber 550 or 552) by the shape and angle of the lugs from the photos. A better quality photo would confirm it from a 165.002 which would have lugs a little longer and flatter from the .001 model. Yours's looks pristine!! The case on mine was beyond repair, being worn to the point you could see the threads on the stainless steel case back from the crown section and the opposite side as well,
Let us know how this unfolds, but I would be surprised if the quote would be at par with local authorized service centers. They may also want to change the dial for a service dial!! You may consider if you be happy with this???
 
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Looking at older photos, yours is a 165.002 by the shape of the lugs. Compare the lugs in photo below of a 165.001
 
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I support the advice and information mentioned in the previous replies!! I kept quiet at first as I really had nothing else to add!!

But when I reflected on it, I could not understand for the life of me why your watchmaker would want to send it to Geneva???? My first impression was that maybe he would not be able to get parts if he is not an authorized Omega service watchmaker. Surely there are many other National/ local authorized service centers that would be able to get parts should the need arise!! This would have been a more feasible option!!
Why?
Upon viewing your images, ( even if the quality is poor), I do believe your story that the watch has had very little use as I see hardly any wear sections on the plated part of the case. Having said this, it would need no more than a movement service and not a complete restoration warranting the need for Omega in Geneva to be involved. The dial looks nice and so does the case. I had exactly that same model which I recall to be a 165.001 (powered by a caliber 550 or 552) by the shape and angle of the lugs from the photos. A better quality photo would confirm it from a 165.002 which would have lugs a little longer and flatter from the .001 model. Yours's looks pristine!! The case on mine was beyond repair, being worn to the point you could see the threads on the stainless steel case back from the crown section and the opposite side as well,
Let us know how this unfolds, but I would be surprised if the quote would be at par with local authorized service centers. They may also want to change the dial for a service dial!! You may consider if you be happy with this???
Thanks for the response. I'm sorry that I didn't take better photos but I assumed a lot of things, including that the repair shop would take their own photos and give me some information about the caliber and year of manufacture. I'm still perplexed about the repair shop sending the watch to Geneva. They are an Omega certified shop so I don't think getting parts would be and issue for them. He merely said that Omega would do a better job so I went with his recommendation.

In December, I received a quote for the repair. Just under $1100 and seven months to do the work. It within the range that I expected so I authorized the work. Again, this was not a financial decision. I just wanted to have the watch working again. I stipulated that I wanted a mechanical repair only. I was told that they would not touch the dial but they would likely replace the stem and polish the case. As you noted, the case is in excellent condition so I don't think a light polish will do any harm.
 
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That's an absurd amount to spend on that watch (and for a mechanical service only), but it's your decision.
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