Help, should I buy this 2531.80?

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Hello, I am in the process of buying a 2531. I asked the seller to take pictures in sunlight, but to my surprise markers look green??

This is a 2002 watch so it’s superluminova.

I see many pictures of the markers being off-white, cream-green which is what I want.

Is it normal that these look green even if in sunlight? Or is there something off with this?

Do they ever look whitish?

Appreciate the help.

 
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Here are some more that the seller sent with a white piece of paper for comparison.

Help appreciated!

 
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I'd like to see some shots of the flanks, clasp, and caseback but I don't see any red flags from what you've shown. Bezel insert appears authentic (many are aftermarket). The bezel frame does not appear over polished. Dial looks correct. I can't see the brushed/polished transitions on the lugs enough to know if it's perfect but I don't see anything horrible from what I can tell from the photos posted.

Based on the lume and red tip on the seconds hand (not faded) I'd guess that is a model made in the 00s rather than 90s.
 
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I'd like to see some shots of the flanks, clasp, and caseback but I don't see any red flags from what you've shown. Bezel insert appears authentic (many are aftermarket). The bezel frame does not appear over polished. Dial looks correct. I can't see the brushed/polished transitions on the lugs enough to know if it's perfect but I don't see anything horrible from what I can tell from the photos posted.

Based on the lume and red tip on the seconds hand (not faded) I'd guess that is a model made in the 00s rather than 90s.
Thank you! My question was specifically about the marker colors I see them very green when most other I see appear to be whiter in daylight.
 
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The color is the lume aging - totally normal for a 25 year old watch. What are they asking for it?
 
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The color is the lume aging - totally normal for a 25 year old watch. What are they asking for it?

Is lume aging in superluminova a thing? Also then why others look almost white?
 
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The color is the lume aging - totally normal for a 25 year old watch. What are they asking for it?

Is lume aging in superluminova a thing? Also then why others look almost white?
 
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Here are some more that the seller sent with a white piece of paper for comparison
The 'white paper' looks grey so the camera hasn’t selected the correct white balance, or has exposed for a medium greyscale.
Is it normal that these look green even if in sunlight?
Perfectly normal. The superluminova in mine looks pale green when charged in sunlight
 
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I'd like to see some shots of the flanks, clasp, and caseback but I don't see any red flags from what you've shown. Bezel insert appears authentic (many are aftermarket). The bezel frame does not appear over polished. Dial looks correct. I can't see the brushed/polished transitions on the lugs enough to know if it's perfect but I don't see anything horrible from what I can tell from the photos posted.

Based on the lume and red tip on the seconds hand (not faded) I'd guess that is a model made in the 00s rather than 90s.

Here some side images. He says it has never been polished.

 
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The color is the lume aging - totally normal for a 25 year old watch. What are they asking for it?
Is lume aging in superluminova a thing? Also then why others look almost white?

Superluminova really doesn't show signs of aging the same way as prior tritium lume, but it does "age" ever so slightly.

@OmegaBorder what's probably happened is that the lume is "charged" in all of the shots. I've seen a lot of 2531 pictures online that look just like this one; the camera likely picked up on the slight green and amplified it.

Cell phone cameras tend to be more sensitive to green light because of the way the camera filter is built. This is done because the human eye is also more sensitive to the green-yellow spectrum than any other, but I think cell phone pictures have a way to go before they look exactly like.

I'll attach two images of mine, one charged and in sunlight, and one not very charged and in garage light.



There's some slight green present to the camera even in bright light. It isn't as intense as the images you shared, but it's possible that camera is more sensitive to green or that the lighting conditions weren't the same.



In this image, the lume is slightly less green tinted and looks more faded yellowish. HOWEVER- the lume was actually MORE visible to my naked eye in this image than it was in the first one, because of the ambient light.

I'd say you've got a pretty normal image there, I'd anticipate some amount of weirdness from the camera shots.

NOTE/EDIT: This lume is rarely true white. It can't be, because it's always emitting some amount of green-yellow light. Green-yellow lume tends to be the most visible to us at night because rod cells, despite not being able to perceive color, pick up green and slightly blue wavelengths most efficiently. Meanwhile, of our three cone cells, we have two that overlap in the yellow-green wavelength, and our most numerous cone (L) has the most detection at the 560–564 nm wavelength (yellow green). We're just really, really, really good at perceiving green-yellow.
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The photos of the flanks are not super in focus, but I don't see red flags. This looks like a good specimen.

I see nothing on the dial or with the lume that causes me concern.
 
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Superluminova really doesn't show signs of aging the same way as prior tritium lume, but it does "age" ever so slightly.

@OmegaBorder what's probably happened is that the lume is "charged" in all of the shots. I've seen a lot of 2531 pictures online that look just like this one; the camera likely picked up on the slight green and amplified it.

Cell phone cameras tend to be more sensitive to green light because of the way the camera filter is built. This is done because the human eye is also more sensitive to the green-yellow spectrum than any other, but I think cell phone pictures have a way to go before they look exactly like.

I'll attach two images of mine, one charged and in sunlight, and one not very charged and in garage light.


Thank you Erich for always giving detailed and helpful responses!

But I think your in both your pictures your watch markers look very white, as I would expect. The ones in the one I am considering look way more green, no? Or is it just the camera?

I am not sure if there where different batches of superluminova, some greeners than others?

I really like much more when this watch markets look whiter. It makes for a cleaner look.

Thank you again.
 
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Here is the photo Omega has on their website for this reference. Note the lume color leans green. It's all about the photography lighting and the color correction used (or not used).
 
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Here is the photo Omega has on their website for this reference. Note the lume color leans green. It's all about the photography lighting and the color correction used (or not used).

Yes, I saw this. But literally if you go to google or ig and type 2531.80, 90% of them look like off-white, very pale green. Especially in sunlight.
 
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Also note that pillow cushion should be cream colored and it looks greenish. It's the camera being used, I'm sure of it.
 
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Yes, I saw this. But literally if you go to google or ig and type 2531.80, 90% of them look like off-white, very pale green. Especially in sunlight.
Are you concerned the watch is fake? I see absolutely nothing about the watch that suggests it's fake. Fakes of this era are notoriously bad and no Chinese factory is banging out super clones of a 30 year old Omega Seamaster when they can be making counterfeit current generation Rolex Daytonas and GMTs instead.
 
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Also note that pillow cushion should be cream colored and it looks greenish. It's the camera being used, I'm sure of it.

Thanks for the helpful replies. Here is a picture of his listing with the cushion appearing cream. Note markers still look greenish, less for sure but more than the others I see.

 
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Are you concerned the watch is fake? I see absolutely nothing about the watch that suggests it's fake. Fakes of this era are notoriously bad and no Chinese factory is banging out super clones of a 30 year old Omega Seamaster when they can be making counterfeit current generation Rolex Daytonas and GMTs instead.

Nono! I’m not concerned it’s fake. What I am trying to find out is that if maybe there were different batches of superluminova that made some look greener and other whiter. And if that is the case, if this specimen is one of the former.

I really want to buy it as everything else looks great and the price is ok.

But this one thing is bothering me.
 
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Thanks for the helpful replies. Here is a picture of his listing with the cushion appearing cream. Note markers still look greenish, less for sure but more than the others I see.


If this is a patient seller, you could ask them to use a completely different cell phone camera.

Something to keep in mind is how these cameras are going to age- how are they perceiving light? LED emitting devices sometimes become more and more blue with age. Today's cell cameras are not taking the same kinds of pictures as a polaroid film camera, but I also don't think they're taking the same exact pictures as every brand of cell camera.

Are you concerned the watch is fake? I see absolutely nothing about the watch that suggests it's fake. Fakes of this era are notoriously bad and no Chinese factory is banging out super clones of a 30 year old Omega Seamaster when they can be making counterfeit current generation Rolex Daytonas and GMTs instead.

Agree with 502 here. EVERY single fake of the 2531 I have seen uses a second gen dial (applied markers). They look AWFUL. There may be some out there with painted dials that are fake and if there are I bet they're 100x worse.
 
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Nono! I’m not concerned it’s fake. What I am trying to find out is that if maybe there were different batches of superluminova that made some look greener and other whiter. And if that is the case, if this specimen is one of the former.

I really want to buy it as everything else looks great and the price is ok.

But this one thing is bothering me.

I'd rule out the camera first. There is a text variation I'm aware of, but not a batch that was this much more green.