Forums Latest Members

Help on two tone 40’s longines vintage

  1. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    hello to all :)
    I am looking at this vintage longines , as always during the initial hunt I don’t get good pictures so I need advice from the OF experts . Dial looks 2 tones , minute and hour hands are different from second hand, so makes me doubt if any are replacement . Dial is original ?? No chance to get inside pics, any thoughts on the caliber or year? He says is from his grand grand father
    Thanks a lot

    D8D6EEC0-3950-4293-9592-4BC8A58F9226.png 5B485E95-B8D4-4073-9E3D-62CB8A4D28E5.png
     
  2. BlueHands Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    315
    Likes
    806
    Really bad pictures, but what I see and think is that hour and minute hands are not legit to the watch, second hand matches, Longines signature quite blurred, but seems to be original, also small second area looks good. Would be good to have the inside watch in terms of dial feet. Possibly 12.68 caliber, 1940s
     
  3. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    Some more pics , hope it helps
    The dial is what worries me more

    F2E9B1B3-6FD9-4D02-BDB4-FE03CAB9A5A3.jpeg EAE395CD-E597-4438-BD86-758745758709.jpeg 12EA6F55-FCFF-4B63-86F6-3CFA072248FA.jpeg F073AC1F-46FE-4FB0-B605-A4BBEA74D0A4.jpeg AB1528F3-C7BE-4D35-B4CF-A69CCD5B4FF7.jpeg 073E6D87-DF16-4D27-A10B-4A76FC8D13E2.jpeg 2ADC0ED9-7FB8-4D54-9A11-149ABF04BDFD.jpeg
     
  4. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    12,194
    Likes
    15,696
    No way to tell you anything definitive from these pictures.
    gatorcpa
     
  5. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    Here some more, I got them from the video he send me so I made print screen

    BF9BE11E-0386-4A1B-934C-C59EB9B7CC3A.jpeg B4C2449E-D014-40CB-9A0A-0AAA87321B6A.jpeg 7A89212A-FFFA-4FFD-A09C-B32A4265FBEF.jpeg A2317013-0875-4B34-896E-11536B485A43.jpeg 80D0DB63-4CAF-43A2-AE88-301519D0519F.jpeg 9F118E0A-2699-4F78-BFFD-8E7EC36497BD.jpeg
     
  6. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    12,194
    Likes
    15,696
    Not enough definition. The Longines logo is correct for a 1940's watch. However, the quality of redials at that time was probably better than those done today.

    You will need to examine in person.
    gatorcpa
     
  7. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    Well I took the risk as the price was reasonable , case looks fine and dial.... hope too :)
    It’s from 1944 , steal case , caliber ...?
    Now I need to wait for it and I hate buying before weekend as I need to wait longer
     
  8. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    7,422
    Likes
    20,884
    The caliber is a 12.68Z, dial looks original to me, minute and hour hand later replacement from late 40s or more likely early 50s
    it’s got a nice radial design, and it might look much better in person but to me the question is condition. However given the 35mm size it might end up being enjoyable to wear.
     
    Rusdaell and durri70 like this.
  9. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge, when you say hands are replacement ? It means that were replaced for other hands that don’t belong to these reference? I would like to see the same watch to know what are the hands that correspond to this reference, if anyone has it I would love to see it
    Thanks to all
     
  10. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    7,422
    Likes
    20,884
    Yes that is correct. There is no reason why anyone would have pictures of the same reference as Longines made so many— but that watch belongs to a clear a time period with a clear style, and the hands being shown here are gold color when they should be blued steel as the seconds hand.
    The original hands based on having seen scores of Longines models from the same period should be blued steel hands, probably leaf or baton hands, matching the seconds hand.
     
    Rusdaell, durri70 and bubba48 like this.
  11. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    As I have another Longines from 1944 with wrong case and redial I could use the minute and hour hands for the new watch ? The pics not very good but are blue hands
    Thanks Syrte
     
  12. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
  13. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    7,422
    Likes
    20,884
    If it’s the same caliber and if the length of the hands fits the size of the dial it could be a good idea. Only your watchmaker will be able to tell you that when you get the watch.
    Edit-
    Just saw the picture. It might not fit as it’s a center seconds caliber. I don’t think the central hole is the same size.
    Your watchmaker needs to figure it out. Worth looking into.
     
    Rusdaell likes this.
  14. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    Same 35mm case size
     
  15. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    7,422
    Likes
    20,884
    Not the same caliber. Read my edit above.
     
    durri70 likes this.
  16. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    Caliber is 23m so not the same :-(
    3A8D5257-87B4-45DD-A290-AD1CCAA0B5C8.png
     
  17. durri70 Feb 6, 2020

    Posts
    910
    Likes
    1,041
    Thanks Syrte, otherwise I’ll have to search for the hands .... not easy I guess
    Let’s wait until the watch arrives
     
  18. Rusdaell Mar 7, 2020

    Posts
    7
    Likes
    11
    Yes, these hands (for 12.68z) have smaller central holes than those of 23M or 12.68N. Can not replace them