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neilbardsley
·Impressive set up. I wonder if the room is sound proofed from the rest of the house?
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cvalue13
·It did sound absolutely amazing to me: expansive stage, enormous but easy volume, and really an altogether amazing listening experience - especially when paired with the types of vinyl this guy has.
That said, years of firearms and rock shows leave me with not the best of ears. One of several reasons I personally don’t have a $1M system. 😁
Given my ears in the same room, I won’t vouch for whether you could equally impress me with a $10,000 dollar system.
Impressive set up. I wonder if the room is sound proofed from the rest of the house?
This room has sound proofing but also is out above the detached garage.
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rob#1
·Nice acoustic treatment on the walls, floor & ceiling 👍 -that used to be a side gig. Good that it’s on its own circuit away from fridges, etc. also.
But does he isolate his cables up off the floor? 😉 (I’ve seen some crazy and interesting ’improvements’ to high end audio systems over the years…)
But does he isolate his cables up off the floor? 😉 (I’ve seen some crazy and interesting ’improvements’ to high end audio systems over the years…)
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bombaywalla
·Tonight visited a friend with a >$1,000,000 system and a >$1,000,000 vinyl collection
I state the figures because they make me feel universally reasonable in my tiny and inexpensive obsessions
the TechDAS Air Force 1 (with optical cartridge) pictured here is about to be replaced by a TechDAS Air Force Zero, “requiring” a complete revamp of this hardware wall:
I was visiting while he’s still attempting to organize and rationalize duplicates from his purchase of the entire Classic Records “#1” Archive ( the so-far organized portion below)
hopefully he has dedicated outlets in that room going to the panel directly.
good to know if sounded excellent -- sonics are key, as others have mentioned....
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentGlad he rocks out sometimes and doesn't waste all that equipment on just classical and jazz 😎
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cvalue13
·Nice acoustic treatment on the walls, floor & ceiling 👍 -that used to be a side gig. Good that it’s on its own circuit away from fridges, etc. also.
But does he isolate his cables up off the floor? 😉 (I’ve seen some crazy and interesting ’improvements’ to high end audio systems over the years…)
all of those amps along the floor are on dedicate 220amp panels, behind some “magic” black box that cleans the unicorn sparkles out of the electricity
the cables were trussed up in some manner
What amps is he using?
I didn’t catch/retain the name as he rolled through the dozens of components 😁
Glad he rocks out sometimes and doesn't waste all that equipment on just classical and jazz 😎
actually, his system he says is built specifically for rock - he specifically said it would be inordinate overkill for listening to classic jazz, but if instead you want to feel like you’re in the front row of a Zep concert in ‘69 and wonder if you might need hearing protection …
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bombaywalla
·Glad he rocks out sometimes and doesn't waste all that equipment on just classical and jazz 😎
actually, his system he says is built specifically for rock - he specifically said it would be inordinate overkill for listening to classic jazz, but if instead you want to feel like you’re in the front row of a Zep concert in ‘69 and wonder if you might need hearing protection …
I disagree with you @BlackTalon quite a bit.
And, from @cvalue13 comment, I just lost a lot of respect for your friend's audio system. 🙁
if you are going to spend this sort of money then it should be for classical & Jazz because these 2 genres have a lot of dynamic range compared to rock.
Rock music is very heavily compressed & many times recorded "hot" just so that it is loud. While it does have dynamic range, it is much lower than classical & jazz. The quiet sections in rock are never really quiet like they are in classical (especially) & in jazz.
If he spent this much money for a rock hi-end audio system, I will say "what a waste of money & effort".
anyway, if he's happy, so be it.
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SkunkPrince
·I mostly use my "high end" (at the low end of high end) system mostly for TV and movies nowadays!
As for compressed, expanders are available, and some rock is recorded very well and there is indeed a difference between the high end systems and mid-fi. I don't see an issue with getting and using the best equipment you can afford for whatever music you like, because you generally end up hearing a lot you wouldn't otherwise.
As for compressed, expanders are available, and some rock is recorded very well and there is indeed a difference between the high end systems and mid-fi. I don't see an issue with getting and using the best equipment you can afford for whatever music you like, because you generally end up hearing a lot you wouldn't otherwise.
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dpwaber
·Tonight visited a friend with a >$1,000,000 system and a >$1,000,000 vinyl collection
I state the figures because they make me feel universally reasonable in my tiny and inexpensive obsessions
the TechDAS Air Force 1 (with optical cartridge) pictured here is about to be replaced by a TechDAS Air Force Zero, “requiring” a complete revamp of this hardware wall:
I was visiting while he’s still attempting to organize and rationalize duplicates from his purchase of the entire Classic Records “#1” Archive ( the so-far organized portion below)
Waste of money if you can get binaural to work for yourself.
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CES, Las Vegas - The Audiophile Voice's Arnis Balgalvis said, "Ralph Glasgal's presentation was ear-opening. What he managed to accomplish from two very closely placed speakers was to create a very refined soundspace that extended way beyond the outside of these closely positioned speakers. I sat there astonished. Switched back to normal, the soundstage contracted into the two speakers with just about nothing in the way of soundstage width."
"The Most Realistic System I've ever heard."
Clark Johnsen, Positive Feedback
"I'm still incredulous"
Ken Kessler, Hi-Fi News & Record Reviews 9/98
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https://www.ambiophonics.org/kudos-and-pictures
Twas me that dunnit for Ralph..
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keepsonticking
·You know you have a problem when you're back into cassette and reel to reel, as well as all the old Marantz, Sansui, etc. I just picked up a non-operational Nakamichi Dragon as a fun project. That was irony. But I've wanted one since 1984. They were technical marvels when Madonna and Tears for Fears were on top.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentI disagree with you @BlackTalon quite a bit.
Don't take stuff in this thread too seriously. Most of us that post here know a bit about the subject matter.
And in general, NEVER take anything I write/ say seriously. 😉
...but yeah, many high $$$ systems never have the chance to rock out. And it sometimes makes me sad.
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cvalue13
·I disagree with you @BlackTalon quite a bit.
And, from @cvalue13 comment, I just lost a lot of respect for your friend's audio system. 🙁
if you are going to spend this sort of money then it should be for classical & Jazz because these 2 genres have a lot of dynamic range compared to rock.
Rock music is very heavily compressed & many times recorded "hot" just so that it is loud. While it does have dynamic range, it is much lower than classical & jazz. The quiet sections in rock are never really quiet like they are in classical (especially) & in jazz.
If he spent this much money for a rock hi-end audio system, I will say "what a waste of money & effort".
anyway, if he's happy, so be it.
I really have no pig in this poke, but to remind: I said that he said the system was over-built for jazz/classical, in order to also accommodate rock. Meaning, by intent, it still handles completely the former, but also the latter.
also, don’t forget my mention of the $1M vinyl collection: he has some pressings of rock, including the entire Classical Records #1 Archive I mentioned, that are expensive precisely because they - according to people more knowledgeable than me - manage to do justice to the music.
in fact to prove this, he took me on a bit of a guided tour to listen back-to-back to several different pressing of Zep II’s Moby Dick, with Bonham’s drumming being the feature of pressings he felt most illuminated the variability in quality of pressings of rock, and the attendant difficulty of finding good pressings. We listened to modern pressings on the order of $200 to rare period pressings on the order of $4,000, and a few from the Classic Records Archive (200g clear, 200g clear single-sided, etc.).
While I’ll admit that my ears may not notice the full range of differences between a $10,000 system and a $1,000,000 system, I was blown away by the range of experience that even I could discern between different vinyl pressings of Moby Dick.
Perhaps, then, you are in violent agreement with my friend but only to different conclusions: most pressings of rock are relatively unimpressive to listen to, but if instead you can find and afford the right pressings…
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cvalue13
·Meaning, by intent, it still handles completely the former, but also the latter.
BTW, I’m sorry I don’t have better agility with the ID on all this equip, but I realized that from the pictures one might miss the floor to ceiling array of subs in both far back corners - here overexposed and zoomed in so that you might see
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentThe funny thing is 16-bit CDs have a higher dynamic range than vinyl. It's really all about the recording/ mastering when it comes to how much of the maximum range is utilized..
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentBTW, I’m sorry I don’t have better agility with the ID on all this equip, but I realized that from the pictures one might miss the floor to ceiling array of subs in both far back corners - here overexposed and zoomed in so that you might see
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cvalue13
·The funny thing is 16-bit CDs have a higher dynamic range than vinyl. It's really all about the recording/ mastering when it comes to how much of the maximum range is utilized..
no parallels to the accuracy of a quartz compared to a mechanical 😗😁
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Most of my friends listen to music nowadays by playing files through blue tooth speakers TV sound bars or 70s stereo gear. They regard my B&W, Rotel, Pro-Ject, Marantz, Yamaha Gear as insanely expensive, yet bring records over, “I need to hear this on your system”. All of it prolly cost less than the cables in the system @cvalue13 posted.
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bombaywalla
·I really have no pig in this poke, but to remind: I said that he said the system was over-built for jazz/classical, in order to also accommodate rock. Meaning, by intent, it still handles completely the former, but also the latter.
also, don’t forget my mention of the $1M vinyl collection: he has some pressings of rock, including the entire Classical Records #1 Archive I mentioned, that are expensive precisely because they - according to people more knowledgeable than me - manage to do justice to the music.
in fact to prove this, he took me on a bit of a guided tour to listen back-to-back to several different pressing of Zep II’s Moby Dick, with Bonham’s drumming being the feature of pressings he felt most illuminated the variability in quality of pressings of rock, and the attendant difficulty of finding good pressings. We listened to modern pressings on the order of $200 to rare period pressings on the order of $4,000, and a few from the Classic Records Archive (200g clear, 200g clear single-sided, etc.).
While I’ll admit that my ears may not notice the full range of differences between a $10,000 system and a $1,000,000 system, I was blown away by the range of experience that even I could discern between different vinyl pressings of Moby Dick.
Perhaps, then, you are in violent agreement with my friend but only to different conclusions: most pressings of rock are relatively unimpressive to listen to, but if instead you can find and afford the right pressings…
ok, thanks for clarifying -- i must've missed the part where you wrote overbuilt for jazz/classical.
i agree -- most rock pressings are to be forgotten but there are some that are very good.
but it all depends on the source material. I think I agree with your friend on this....
and, in the next post thanks for over exposing the corner -- yeah, i had missed those tower subs.
when you listened, did you hear those subs?
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cvalue13
·when you listened, did you hear those subs?
funny you asked, because my friend specifically mentioned something along the lines of “now, you’ll of course hear base notes, but you won’t know these subs are there - unless I turned them off.”
i didn’t ask him to turn them off 😀
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