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·Southeast as in Georgia, Florida, etc. 10/4 thanks for the heads up!
Fake Seamaster 120 quick guide
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hmmmcamu
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fluffig44
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Hello,
I'm new to this forum and recently my interest in Omega vintage watches was sparked. I discovered a Seamaster 120 from 1967 in Alberto Isnardi's book and I think it's wonderful. After some searching, I was offered the following watch: There is probably an eBay authenticity check, but I don't really trust it, what would be your assessment? Fake or not?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
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Davidt
·Looks genuine but worn. Wrong crown.
Do you have any more pictures to better assess condition. What’s the asking?
Do you have any more pictures to better assess condition. What’s the asking?
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fluffig44
·Thanks a lot, the asking ist 1750 Euro but not with the steel bracelet...the watch will be sold with a non omega leather strap... itcwoll be my furst omega vintagexwatch, so i am very concerned because of the possibility of beeing a fake or frankenwatch...
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hmmmcamu
·Thanks a lot, the asking ist 1750 Euro but not with the steel bracelet...the watch will be sold with a non omega leather strap... itcwoll be my furst omega vintagexwatch, so i am very concerned because of the possibility of beeing a fake or frankenwatch...
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fluffig44
·it looks ok BUT can you upload BIGGER photos so ppl can actually see the details kinda hard to check the minutia on ur photos
I received the photos from the seller, unfortunately I don't have anything else. sorry. but thank you very much for your effort until now in this wonderful forum!
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hmmmcamu
·1967
no date / manual wind (details for reference use)
no date / manual wind (details for reference use)
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hmmmcamu
·on 1098 SS bracelet with ref 547 endlinks @ 19mm
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hmmmcamu
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I received the photos from the seller, unfortunately I don't have anything else. sorry. but thank you very much for your effort until now in this wonderful forum!
some say the OMEGA 120 was introduced in 1966 (?) and was sold to the general public in 1967.
aprox movement serial number range ...
Omega Movement Serial Number Range:
1967 - 25,000,000 – 25,999,999
1968 - 26,000,000 – 27,999,999
1969 - 28,000,000 – 31,999,999
The Gentleman's (smaller version made for the ladies) SEAMASTER 120 came in 4 models:
Case ref.# - 135.027 ....... Manual Movement, No Date, Caliber 601
Case ref.# - 136.027 ........ Manual Movement, with Date, Caliber 613
Case ref.# - 165.027 ........ Auto Movement, No Date, Caliber 552
Case ref.# - 166.027 ........ Auto Movement, with Date, Cailber 565
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Davidt
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I received the photos from the seller, unfortunately I don't have anything else. sorry. but thank you very much for your effort until now in this wonderful forum!
It’s genuine but condition is very average. Then again the price is less than what you’d pay for a good one with a bracelet.
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ua.wristwatch
·It's nice to see, that there people who guards us from all this fakes 😀 people like you!
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ZWD
·hi!
would love to get peoples thoughts on this:
caseback looks suspicious but not sure if its a variant that im not familiar with. 601 is serial 28XXXXXX. Thanks!!
would love to get peoples thoughts on this:
caseback looks suspicious but not sure if its a variant that im not familiar with. 601 is serial 28XXXXXX. Thanks!!
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Davidt
·It’s fake
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tech396
·I know this is an old post, but thank you from a "new collector".
It's posts like these that keep the collectors informed and less likely to buy the wrong thing.
Cheers from Canada
It's posts like these that keep the collectors informed and less likely to buy the wrong thing.
Cheers from Canada
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·thank you for your replies, can you please help point to what looks suspect besides caseback? any insight would be very helpful. i purchased it with ebay authentication - which it passed… i am able to return it but i would love to be able to provide why, if there is more then the caseback.
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·I’m actually not going to list the main tells here as these fakes are being produced now and each batch seems to get better. It wouldn’t surprise me if the people making these watch these kinds of threads for tips to improve future batches.
I’d just return it, you have that choice with eBay and don’t need to provide a reason.
I’d just return it, you have that choice with eBay and don’t need to provide a reason.
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techzonetips
·About 95% of the Seamaster 120 135.027 (the manual winding no date version) sold on ebay are fakes.
Fake kits including dial, hands and complete case are easily available for about $400.
New fake kits just appeared for the 165.027 565 auto date too.
BTW Omega doesn't have parts (dial, case) for these models for more than 20 years anymore.
Fakes are easy to spot:
Bezel have 120 teeth (144 for the real ones)
Lume spot does not have a metal ring, but is under a very small hesalite dome
Dial writings are greyish not bold white
Omega logo is different
Index are yellow painted, and don't look like real tritium
Casebacks have pointed A and Omega symbol is too small (same difference on the 166.027 auto date casebacks)
Inside the saceback for comparaison, fake left
Seamaster 120 auto date 166.027 dial is quite different:
Dial writings are greyish not bold white
More space between Omega logo and text
Indexes are narrower like the no date version
T SWISSMADE T is like the no date version
Date window is flat
Hope it helps
Here is the whole (real) family
166.027 auto date
136.027 manual date
135.027 manual no date
165.027 auto no date
1968 seamaster 120m cal 552 no date
Please any suggestions would help.
