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  1. uwsearch

    uwsearch Mar 3, 2020

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    About 95% of the Seamaster 120 135.027 (the manual winding no date version) sold on ebay are fakes.

    Fake kits including dial, hands and complete case are easily available for about $400.

    New fake kits just appeared for the 165.027 565 auto date too.

    BTW Omega doesn't have parts (dial, case) for these models for more than 20 years anymore.


    Fakes are easy to spot:

    Bezel have 120 teeth (144 for the real ones)
    Lume spot does not have a metal ring, but is under a very small hesalite dome
    Dial writings are greyish not bold white
    Omega logo is different
    Index are yellow painted, and don't look like real tritium

    comparaison 120 no date.JPG

    Casebacks have pointed A and Omega symbol is too small (same difference on the 166.027 auto date casebacks)

    comparaison 120 no date caseback.JPG

    Inside the saceback for comparaison, fake left

    comparaison 120 no date caseback 2.JPG

    Seamaster 120 auto date 166.027 dial is quite different:
    Dial writings are greyish not bold white
    More space between Omega logo and text
    Indexes are narrower like the no date version
    T SWISSMADE T is like the no date version
    Date window is flat

    comparaison 120 auto date.JPG

    Hope it helps

    Here is the whole (real) family
    166.027 auto date
    136.027 manual date
    135.027 manual no date
    165.027 auto no date
    IMGS5959.JPG
     
    Edited Mar 3, 2020
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  2. bubba48

    bubba48 Mar 3, 2020

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    Very useful; thanks for sharing
     
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  3. KingCrouchy

    KingCrouchy Mar 3, 2020

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    Thanks for sharing, I'm very grateful when members on OF share the knowledge they amassed over the years with other members.:thumbsup:
     
  4. uwsearch

    uwsearch Mar 3, 2020

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  5. Maganator

    Maganator Mar 3, 2020

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    I was aware of a lot of these 'tells' but certainly not all of them.

    Thanks for taking the time to put this together.

    I am away to review my ebay watch list to see if there are any fakes on there!
     
  6. trash_gordon

    trash_gordon Mar 3, 2020

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    Thanks for that :thumbsup:
     
  7. 321Only

    321Only Mar 3, 2020

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    Great idea, thanks!
     
  8. 321Only

    321Only Mar 3, 2020

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    I also noticed a difference with the mid cases on the fakes. On the original SM120, the top side of the lugs is polished, while the fake ones are brushed
     
  9. uwsearch

    uwsearch Mar 3, 2020

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    Right, but many are artificially aged, polished, scratched...
     
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    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Mar 5, 2020

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  12. uwsearch

    uwsearch Mar 5, 2020

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    You've the power!
     
  13. uwsearch

    uwsearch Mar 9, 2020

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  15. kov

    kov Mar 9, 2020

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    Thank you very much @uwsearch great initiative :thumbsup:
     
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  16. Maganator

    Maganator Mar 9, 2020

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    Yes this is great. We need to report these and get them out of the market.
     
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    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Mar 9, 2020

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    Gone.
     
  19. uwsearch

    uwsearch Mar 21, 2020

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  20. KRR

    KRR Mar 22, 2020

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    Wondering about these two. Seem slightly different although same model.
     
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